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#175578 - 05/15/06 10:29 PM Thoughts on the border troops...
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
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Not too long ago I felt the U.S.A. needed to stop all unauthorized border crossings, with force if necessary...

Recently I have begun to think that will only change our problems, not solve them...

The real problem is that there are jobs and tons of free services waiting for those Mexican citizens upon their arrival, if we could fix that the invasion would largely be over wouldn't it ?

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#175579 - 05/15/06 11:58 PM Re: Thoughts on the border troops...
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Yeah. It's like a turd sandwich....you can't take a bite that's going to be good.

It makes more sense to go after the problem from the employer side, IMO.....but that's where the money lies, and when all is said and done, the money wins.
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#175580 - 05/16/06 12:12 AM Re: Thoughts on the border troops...
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
i dont think that the "free services" are drawing them up here.... its a long way to go for a free sandwich and soup!

we have overthrown almost every democracy south of us in the americas and put dictators in place of democracy.these dictators plundered dozens of countries and we lent them billions and billions which they stole from the people of those countries and racked up huge military debts with us.....
when those dictators were overthrown, the people inherited the debts of the dictators. many countries are still paying off those debts and are not able to pick themselves up by their bootstraps due to the entire national budget in some countries being devoted to foreign debtors.

misguided members of our government have created huge messes south of us and we are paying for it...nothing we can do the border will stop the people from coming to where the money is. hell.....man wanted to go to the moon and did it and just for the hell of it!! nothing will stop a hungry man from doing what it takes to put food in his kids mouths

if we ever want to stop immigration we need to quit ****ing up other countries......
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#175582 - 05/16/06 03:17 PM Re: Thoughts on the border troops...
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
Myself I think we've surpassed the max population level at which quality of life begins to deteriorate for everyone.
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#175584 - 05/16/06 03:54 PM Re: Thoughts on the border troops...
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1765
Hmmm...

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#175585 - 05/16/06 04:45 PM Re: Thoughts on the border troops...
lupo Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
stlhead hit the nail on the head......
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#175586 - 05/16/06 08:09 PM Re: Thoughts on the border troops...
Ichtyoid Offline
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Registered: 03/17/06
Posts: 930
Loc: Olympia
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan S.:
Yeah. It's like a turd sandwich....you can't take a bite that's going to be good.

It makes more sense to go after the problem from the employer side, IMO.....but that's where the money lies, and when all is said and done, the money wins.
Yep. You have to turn down the screws on the businessmen who are only care about thier bottom line. Make it financially dangerous to hire illegals, not just a $5 ticket while they save millions by undermining the wages & benefits of hard-working Americans.

If you talk about helping poverty, everyone thinks you're a swell guy, if you talk about the causes of poverty, you are a called a communist.
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The art of government is to make two-thirds of a nation pay all it possibly can pay for the benefit of the other third.--Voltaire

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