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#176501 - 07/13/06 03:10 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
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Not really in my opinion. Stopping Hezbollah and Hamas is the name of the game. As long as those folks lob missiles or suicide bombers at the Israelis the war goes on. Israel deludes itself into thinking that appeasment of the Hamas Palestinians would improve the quality of life in the area. Now they know better and hopefully will have no more brain flatulence.

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#176502 - 07/13/06 06:52 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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It could get uglier, that's for sure...Syria and Iran foot the bill for the Hezbollah, and Iran has said that any attack on Syria is an attack on them...and with the Israelis being the most motivated soldiers in the world, I don't think that would stop them.

The U.S. will try to contain the violence to between Lebanon and Israel, but that will entail getting Syria and Iran to keep their noses out of it, which may not be as easy as asking them nicely.

Fish on...

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#176503 - 07/13/06 07:29 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 334
Loc: Tacoma
This is kind of what I was aiming at in why I think we jumped into the Iraq war. I feel the U.S. didn't want Israel to exercise its muscle too much. Now, with the political fallout of Iraq, it may be the U.S. feels forced to sit this one out, which means Iran and Israel are probably going to end up at each other throats. This may be why the hinting about us going into Iran has been going on. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Israel might have been pushing for us to go into Iran. When the U.S. hesitated, they upped the escalation the first chance they got.
It will be interesting to see if they pull back and then we suddenly find the resolve to go after Iran. I think the fear is real of Israel going after Iran, and then the rest of the area joining in the fight. Are we then forced to help our ally? And then what about China and Russia rushing to help Iran? This really could get ugly fast.
I don't know the answer, thats for sure. Do we want Israel to dictate our foreign policy, or do they already dictate it by default? Imagine how just the entire region fighting could disrupt our oil supply and then our economy? Then think about a full scale nuclear blowout. Unless we can talk Israel into leaving the area, which we all know isn't going to happen, it may just be a matter of time until the area really does start Armegeddon. Don't fool yourself into thinking peace can happen with Israel in the picture, it just doesn't appear possible.
On a side note, this is why we really do need to find alternative oil reserves or energy sources.

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#176504 - 07/17/06 03:58 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 961
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
I'll second that last sentence Krijack.
And as many have learned, early withdrawal doesn't always work. Hell the banks penalize you for it. lol

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#176505 - 07/18/06 12:38 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Loc: Shelton
When do you guys find any time to work?
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#176506 - 07/18/06 01:33 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Posts: 961
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Work what's that? I've been gainfully employed one way or another for 59 years. Now I don't have much to do. Day care for my grandkid's working mom, pal to 4 Siberian Huskies, gardener and trouble maker in general. Go fishing, hunting or shooting whenever the chance arises. Read in my spare time.


God Bless Derek R.

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#176507 - 07/18/06 01:45 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 10120
Loc: Harstine Island
I keep waiting for someone to accuse the US of covertly bombing Israel (with their permission, of course) to get this whole shebang started.

Siberian husky; Woooo woo woooo woo... Love to hear them sing.
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#176508 - 07/18/06 01:56 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 961
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
Every time a siren is heard in the neighborhood. And when the song dogs are talking in the evening.

Even the craziest conspiracy Schizo hasn't given lip service to that one. Like the aids virus is GI.

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#176509 - 07/18/06 02:28 PM Re: Conditions of Victory and Withdrawal
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Loc: Shelton
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Originally posted by sardonicus:
Work what's that? I've been gainfully employed one way or another for 59 years. Now I don't have much to do. Day care for my grandkid's working mom, pal to 4 Siberian Huskies, gardener and trouble maker in general. Go fishing, hunting or shooting whenever the chance arises. Read in my spare time.


God Bless Derek R.
Sounds like you got the best job around
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