#178869 - 11/09/06 01:49 AM
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Smolt
Registered: 07/17/05
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Loc: Everett, WA
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I wonder about Lieberman? He is pretty angry with those who turned their backs upon him. He did say today he is human and he won't forget their names.
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#178871 - 11/09/06 06:05 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/06
Posts: 930
Loc: Olympia
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Originally posted by Kanektok Kid:
You all got your asses kicked from County to Federal level. All states, all levels,across the board. Any questions?
Perhaps you didn't get the message?
KK It's what Republican's call a "mandate."
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#178873 - 11/09/06 10:58 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/06
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Loc: Olympia
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Originally posted by Kanektok Kid: I thought Republicans called a mandate a 51-49 win?
Clearing the table in all the Senate races seems a complete and total repudiation of the neocon agneda.
Now if we could get Cheney out of there, and in a Federal prison for the next few years, things would be loking good.
KK Shouldn't that last line be on the "Justice" thread? Seriously though, If the Dems dont start some hearings and passing out subpoenas like they are going out of style, I'm moving to New Zealand.
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#178877 - 11/14/06 01:37 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 1340
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KK. I see you bouncing off the walls gleaming that the world has been saved. Freaking Hallelujah. Yes, the radical faction of the Republican party sucks, the bible banging hypocrites, the war mongering neocons, the union busting greedy bastages, the pro developement environmental destroyers etc etc.. But you know what bro, the Democratic party has their complete f ups too in my opinion. I truly cannot stand the faction of your wonderful party that consists of the treehuggers, the vegans, the gun grabbers, the hippies, the radical feminists, the animal rights activists, the pro affirmative action racists, the American socialist movement etc etc... As a conservative moderate, I get screwed by both major parties. Go ahead, call me names, tell me I'm a fascist in sheeps clothing. I'm pro choice, pro union, pro gun, pro hunting, pro conservation, anti spending, anti big government, anti religious fascism (all religions)Not a big fan of Bush either. I am glad to see some balance in Government. Neither party should rein supreme in this country. We need checks and balances to keep the special interest groups at bay. During the prosperous Clinton years, he had a Republican congress. Things went well. KK, you are much more fluent in politics than I am, However I just cannot see any one party having so much good that I'm bouncing off the walls. Let's wait and see. I am always very hesitant to discuss politics in public. I believe that there are both good and bad people in both parties and I can be friends with people that have completley different beliefs than I do. Not everyone feels that way.
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#178878 - 11/14/06 01:57 PM
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Salmonella, I appreciate your last post, and I agree with most of it, however...
These guys:
"...the radical faction of the Republican party sucks, the bible banging hypocrites, the war mongering neocons, the union busting greedy bastages, the pro developement environmental destroyers etc etc..."
...are the ones who have been in charge of the Republican Party, and have been running the show unchecked for the last six years.
These guys, however...
"the faction of your wonderful party that consists of the treehuggers, the vegans, the gun grabbers, the hippies, the radical feminists, the animal rights activists, the pro affirmative action racists, the American socialist movement etc etc..."
...have not only not been in charge of the country, they are not in charge of the Democratic Party, either.
No one should like extremists at either end, but the fact of the matter is that the Radical Right Extremists have stolen the Republican Party from true Conservatives, and have made hay with our country...while the Radical Left Extremists aren't even in the running within the Democratic Party, much less running the show in D.C..
I'll take the moderate Democratic leadership we now have over the radical right Republican neocons that we've been stuck with the last six years.
Fish on...
Todd
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#178881 - 11/14/06 02:33 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 11/29/04
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Damn, We are more alike than I thought! You guys are some very clear thinking individuals. I really enjoy conversation with someone that is not a lockstepping tool of their political party. Let's all hope things work out for the betterment of this country. For my entire life, I've been in love with the outdoors, whether it is hunting or fishing. Mother nature is my God, the streams and mountains are my church and steeple. It will be a glorious day when all people that care about the environment can come together. Hunters, fishermen and the preservationists too. As it is we are so fragmented and at odds with each other that in the end mother nature loses. Take Care Guys. 
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#178882 - 11/14/06 02:37 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Area 51
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Originally posted by Salmonella: I believe that there are both good and bad people in both parties So very true, that's why I remain an Independent and vote for the person I think is best, no matter which party they are affiliated with. This time around I voted across the board for Democates. Desperate times calls for desperate measures. This is the first time that each and every issue or candidate that I voted for won.  Yes, I know it's hard to believe, but I was 100% in choosing winners this last vote. I also, like a few others here, voted for Regan both times and twice for Papa Bush, with a mix of both (Rep & Dem), in previous elections. This time around was an exception though, as I voted to boot the party (Repu) that was supporting the facist direction this country was headed. If and when the Democrates screw up and forget that they are to represent the people and not just corporations and special interest, they will get the same,..that I can promise.  I'm not holding my breath, as campaign reform is desperately needed in order that elections are fuel with public money and not big oil,etc. Now it's time to wait and see. BTW, when I see [Bleeeeep!], I don't hesitate to call it as such. No spin, or pretending from me to cover the foul stinch. If it's got feathers and walks and quacks, it's a duck in my book. After my 100% in the last election, seems most of my opinions are shared by the majority of Independent thinking Americans. Anyway, I am grateful that after all the pre-war arguments I made against this war, that most people are now on the same page that I am. 
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#178884 - 11/14/06 03:20 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
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Yeeeuck. I mean a little happiness is Ok. Just don't pee on your shoes. Most of you seem to think you won 3 fishheads and a box of Mars Bars and hopefully a ticket to common sense goverment. Lord I wish. Pelosi wants to stop the miniscule amount of profiling that the TSA does now under the table. Egad. We will probably farm out our TSA security people to the lowest bidder, yup headquartered in Dubai or Mogadishu, or perhaps Peshawar. I hope when the Brady Bunch presents their latest attempts to make you subjects rather than citizens you react with some anger. Other than a few other observations on the socialist bend of the Democrats I think change is the only sure thing in the human condition. I hope it works out for the best. Now if the Sierra Club could just divorce itself from the environuts like the ELF, and PETA and some others of that ilk, maybe they could squeeze into the legislating process and help save some pieces here and there that are under assault. Abrogate some of the netting treaties wouldn't be a bad start. Take the country's main mode of freight movement, and people movement too, back to steel on steel. The railroads have always been the most efficient movers. They were just shot in the spine by government regulations and the budding trucking industry and their allies the big rig builders. Keep government out of the Rail road business. Let free enterprise work. However, for every buck spent on freeways, spend another buck on the continental rail system. Too much thinking, guess I'll go get a coffee royale. Actually just a coffee common. Just don't go get lazy. So much gas was vented to make this change. Make it work. Raise hell with your representation whenever you dislike something going down.
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#178885 - 11/14/06 03:36 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 2453
Loc: Area 51
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Originally posted by sardonicus: Take the country's main mode of freight movement, and people movement too, back to steel on steel. The railroads have always been the most efficient movers. They were just shot in the spine by government regulations and the budding trucking industry and their allies the big rig builders. Keep government out of the Rail road business. Let free enterprise work. However, for every buck spent on freeways, spend another buck on the continental rail system. Couldn't agree with you more. What's up with that anyway?
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#178887 - 11/14/06 09:03 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 954
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
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Don't forget to give that great American asset, Unions, a bit of credit. You think the teamsters sprang up overnight, like toadstools? That's not far off the track, they became pretty toxic. I have a better idea, let's blow all the dams and let the fish have the run of the river. Any damn dam that can't be blown because of electrical considerations must have fish ladders in place within 24 months. That includes Coulee Damn.
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#178889 - 11/14/06 11:13 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1432
Loc: Olympia, WA
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A woman married three times walked into a bridal shop one day and told the sales clerk that she was looking for a wedding gown for her fourth wedding. "Of course, madam," replied the sales clerk, "exactly what type and color dress are you looking for?" The bride to be said: "A long frilly white dress with a veil." The sales clerk hesitated a bit, then said, "Please don't take this the wrong way, but gowns of that nature are considered more appropriate for brides who are being married the first time - for those who are a bit more innocent, if you know what I mean? Perhaps ivory or sky blue would be nice?" "Well," replied the customer, a little peeved at the clerk's directness, "I can assure you that a white gown would be quite appropriate. Believe it or not, despite all my marriages, I remain as innocent as any first-time bride. You see, my first husband was so excited about our wedding, he died as we were checking into our hotel . My second husband and I got into such a terrible fight in the Limo on our way to our honeymoon that we had that wedding annulled immediately and never spoke to each other again." "What about your third husband?" asked the sales clerk. "That one was a Democrat," said the woman, "and every night for four years, he just sat on the edge of the bed and told me how good it was going to be."
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