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#186689 - 02/17/03 08:24 AM Re: Fly Guys Slash My Tires,Key Truck,Break Lami
ltlCLEO Offline
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Registered: 06/15/01
Posts: 1104
Loc: brownsville wa.
I seem to remember a debte on the ethics of this whole disabled permit thing. last winter.

I will never condone vandilism.I am way to upfront for that nonsense.But mr. Gotofish if you think that you are going to trounce down the middle of a flyfishing only stretch of water with no reaction then you are either ignorant to the basics of human nature or are out looking for an argument with this permit.I for one would like to be a fly on the wall during one of these confrontations to see how YOU handle the situation

gotofish=fishjunkie......

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#186690 - 02/17/03 08:28 AM Re: Fly Guys Slash My Tires,Key Truck,Break Lami
Loco_Dingo Offline
Parr

Registered: 11/25/01
Posts: 64
Loc: Boise
I think it is another sad result of competition...for both the people who did the vandalizing and for Gottagofish. Based on Gottagofish's statements, it probably was some low brow,low rent, mouth breathing, gomer of a fly fisherman who didn't want the spin fishing competition in his water, and also Gottagofish is breaking the rules( not fishing with a bubble and not having an assistant) so he can fish the fly only water. Interesting point: doesn't fly only mean just that? You need to fish with a fly but special use permit means you can use a spinning rod with a bubble?

Too many people get too damn competitive and do whatever it takes to get the advantage over the rest of the crowd. You see the same thing in bowhunting and blackpowder hunting where the weapons are designed by lawyers to find whatever loopholes are in the laws. And it just gets worse with more people. I try to remember that I'm going out to have fun and not show I'm the alpha male.

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#186691 - 02/17/03 04:08 PM Re: Fly Guys Slash My Tires,Key Truck,Break Lami
grumpyr Offline
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Registered: 10/14/99
Posts: 379
Loc: Orygun
This is hunting related but it goes to the same place as the rest of this post. Several years back, I was deer hunting about 3 miles behind a locked gate when a Datsun pickup drove up the road (rifle out the window, etc..) A little later I asked this person what they were doing and how they got past the locked gate. He said that anyone with a handicap parking permit is eligible to recieve gate keys from the landowner (Simpson Timber in this case) and that he and his helper are allowed to be there.
A few days later, I saw the same rig driving around behind another locked gate (Plum Creek this time).
Doesn't it strike you as a little strange that these landowners lock thier gates to "provide enhanced hunting opportunities", then let a priveledged class of individuals circumvent the rules, thus negating the enhancement. During both of these incidents, deer were seen diving into the brush at the sound of the truck engine.
I am by no means condoning the vandalisim reported by Gottagofish. However, flyfishing only water is designated that way for a reason. Whether it be for harvest reduction or whatever. If WDFW is indeed issuing special permits for the handicapped to essentialy fish in a manner that is inconsistent with the established method, then that is just plain wrong. Why don't they just issue a permit to throw dynamite or use snagging gear or something equaly stupid, (has anyone ever wondered why there are brail instructions on the drive up ATM).
Handicapped people do not need our pity, if you are unable to physicaly throw fly gear all day, then use the gear that you are capable of using. Just do it in an appropriate manner and at the appropriate place. And for god sakes, if you do have a (special) permit, don't even think about waving it under my nose or anybody elses nose. That's just piss poor attitude and likely as not, will just result in you getting the crap kicked out of you.
I now relinquish the soap box to the next speaker.
G flog
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#186692 - 02/17/03 05:37 PM Re: Fly Guys Slash My Tires,Key Truck,Break Lami
KerryS Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 07/24/01
Posts: 149
Loc: Everett, WA
I think this whole thing is a troll. First off this guy has the regs wrong as old man pointed out. Second the Skagit isn't fly only so he don't need his special license. Just a meaningless troll. Some fly guy probably caught that 20 pounder in front of him and he is pissed off.

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