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#194798 - 04/19/03 01:40 AM Flaunting the regs
Arklier Offline
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Registered: 05/30/01
Posts: 400
I've seen this a lot, and I'm sure others have too. You go to the lake/dock/river/sound/whatever and there they are:

1.) The guys who only have 'one' salmon, though you've seen them take at least 3 to a cooler in their car.

2.) The guy who's fishing with 3 poles in the water.

3.) The guy who catches one rockfish when the limit is one, and then says maybe he'll come back later.

I saw a lot of #1 when I was fishing for fall silvers several years ago off Dash Point pier. It got to the point where I was fishing one day and caught my limit of two, and the kid next to me asked why I was packing up to leave, and when I answered I had my limit and was going home, he said "Why don't you just go put them in your car so you can fish more?" What kind of lesson does this teach to kids, to flaunt the regulations and take more than your fair share? mad I didn't call the warden, but it really rankled me, and I've always regretted not doing anything about it, especially since it went on for weeks and weeks, and some guys down there would show up every day and fish all day, and keep every fish they caught.

I was at Des Moines pier today, and saw #3. I didn't say anything that time.

Then I went to Lake Fenwick, and saw #2. I pointedly asked the guy, "You know you can only fish with one line at a time, right?" And he said, "I know." But that didn't stop him from casting two lines out at once. After about 45 minutes, I just couldn't stand it anymore (especially since I saw him rebait both lines several times, and one of his lines in the water was always right across where I wanted to fish), and left to call the WDFW poaching hotline. I didn't stick around to see if the warden showed up, but I'm hoping she did. Now, I would love to fish with 2 rods myself, and I was hoping that regulation amendment would pass and allow us to use more than one, but it didn't.

Dammit, I follow the rules, but it seems like sometimes I'm one of the only ones. I never know what to say to these people.

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#194799 - 04/19/03 02:34 AM Re: Flaunting the regs
elkrun Offline
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Registered: 01/15/01
Posts: 759
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
I hear ya! I get sick of some of the crap that takes place out there. I can hardly fish the dungeness river in the fall. Too many morons come out of the woodwork. If they're not punting the chum back into the water after a 10 minute drag up the rocks, then they're bonking em and throwing them into the bushes. I get tired of getting into arguements, or calling them in. I go fishing to have fun and relax, but it seems that is getting harder and harder to do. Sometimes I wish they'd doube or triple the price of the license to weed out those who aren't quite as serious. I guess I should be careful what I ask for....

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#194800 - 04/19/03 06:18 AM Re: Flaunting the regs
Metalhead Mojo Offline
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Registered: 11/26/01
Posts: 550
Loc: Browns Point
Quote:
Originally posted by elkrun:
Sometimes I wish they'd doube or triple the price of the license to weed out those who aren't quite as serious. I guess I should be careful what I ask for....
yeah, then those morons wouldn't bother to buy a license...then they would have to raise it again to make up for lost revenue.

i say increase the fines sky high and offer 10% of that as a bounty to the one who turns them in. then maybe we can start to "cull the herd" like we should.
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#194801 - 04/19/03 07:24 AM Re: Flaunting the regs
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Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 1714
Loc: brier,wa
One thing you guys can and should do is turn these people in. Most of us would say "I just don't want to get involved".....Well don't get involved then but don't complain about it either.
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#194802 - 04/19/03 10:54 AM Re: Flaunting the regs
RK43 Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
Posts: 476
Loc: Edmonds
I am with gramps. Turn the dirty ba****** in!

Probably will not do any good. Not enough enforcement out there.

Blanket party is a fun option, but not everyone has there buds along to help in the fun.
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#194803 - 04/19/03 11:43 AM Re: Flaunting the regs
Preston Singletary Offline
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Registered: 03/29/99
Posts: 373
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
I believe the word you're looking for is "flout", not "flaunt".
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#194804 - 04/19/03 01:49 PM Re: Flaunting the regs
centerpin Offline
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Registered: 11/24/00
Posts: 377
Loc: The Terrace
I got poachers hot line on my cell .I use it sometimes it works,I also have State patrol.
These people won't stop till they get Busted. Funny how the attitude changes on the water when the law is around.when you see people poaching make the call,you will be helping yourself and all other honest fishers.
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#194805 - 04/19/03 06:26 PM Re: Flaunting the regs
Downriggin Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 1189
Loc: Marine Area 13
I see #2 a lot out on the Sound.

There is one particular gentleman at Green Pt in a older Bayliner who I see quite often. Always has two riggers out. Funny because everytime I pass him, he always apppears to talk to someone in the cuddy. Now he might have someone else with him, however, one day as I was passing, I saw both rods come off the clip and no one came out of the cuddy- talk about something funny. I was always suspucious of this guy... This sort of proved my thoughts.

I have since called the hotline several times from the boat and yet I still see this guy fishing two rods. Yet, I get checked all the time when I am the only one out.

Downriggin'
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#194806 - 04/20/03 09:32 PM Re: Flaunting the regs
lupo Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1501
Loc: seattle wa
i keep the poaching hot line in my cell too. its easy and fast to call. there needs to be a clean up party again this summer down at the mouth of the duwamish. I guess last summer they took several undercover wardens down to the spokane street bridge and when they saw enough, they pulled the paddy wagon around and arrested everyone. i go down to the docks by saltys on alki and throw point wilson darts for salmon and every day there are guys breaking bottles into the water or stomping beer cans and throwing them in. and about every tem minutes someone gets a shaker, rips the hook out and kicks it back in. most of the time whem someone gets a chinook, they bag it and run for the car. i say what i can and have gotten pissed a few times but its hard when you dont want to ruin your own time by getting agro but it ruins my day to see it in the first place. one good thing about a fishing partner is that you are more likely to remind those around you to keep the ethics up. many times that i have tried to respectfully remind dirty fishermen to clean it up, i have found that once i said something many others quickly spoke up
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