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#196715 - 05/18/03 09:40 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Originally posted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy:
not like the cougars are out to get us or anything. That trapper is all for publicity.
THis one sure seemed like it was out to get tthat girl.
BBVD do you remember the story about the lady from Princeton? or was the gerber still dripping off your chin.
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The Associated Press
6/25/02 2:31 AM


PORT McNEILL, British Columbia (AP) -- An 8-year-old Reno, Nev., girl was recovering after being attacked by a cougar off northern Vancouver Island.

The attack occurred Sunday on Compton Island, a tiny island about 200 miles northwest of Victoria.

Rita Hilsabeck was on a kayaking trip with her parents and five other people when the cougar pounced on her while the group was making camp for the night.

"It was odd, really, there were people all around her when it happened," her father, Chuck, 52, said Monday at Port McNeill and District Hospital.

"She's got a lot of stitches and she's got soreness, but she's very tough and resilient and she's going to be OK."

Rita's most serious wounds were deep gashes around her neck, where the cougar grabbed her, he said. She also had to have some stitches on her arm and lower back.

Three members of the group remained on Compton Island after the incident, along with Jason Doucet, a guide with Northern Lights Expeditions of Bellingham, Wash.

"Rita was just near the kayaks and the cougar came up and just picked her up on the beach and started dragging her up towards the woods," Doucet said.

Her parents and other kayakers ran to the rescue and eventually scared the big cat off. The cougar, a large male, climbed a nearby tree and was later shot and killed.

Cougars have killed 11 people in British Columbia, 10 of them children, since 1900.

Most cougar attacks occur on Vancouver Island, which has the highest concentration of British Columbia's cougars. There have been 15 cougar attacks on Vancouver Island since 1970, including three deaths.

The last fatal attack occurred in August 1996 when a 36-year-old woman died near Princeton, about 120 miles east of Vancouver, while fighting off a cougar that mauled her son.

Cindy Parolin, an experienced outdoorswoman, was killed when she rushed to defend her 6-year-old son Steven. He was attacked by the big cat after it spooked his horse and he fell off.

Parolin, 36, went after the cougar with a stick and it turned on her, allowing two of her other children to carry Steven away and get help. The family had just started a horseback camping trip.

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#196716 - 05/18/03 09:44 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Registered: 12/30/00
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Take it for what it's worth but I Just heard today that the cougar attack was a big hoax.

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#196717 - 05/18/03 09:47 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Attacks prompt B.C. to consider predator culls
Globe and Mail Update and Canadian Press
Thursday, August 22


Vancouver Island residents could see an increase in cougar and wolf attacks on pets, livestock and possibly humans if the animal populations aren't brought under control, a provincial wildlife specialist warns.

Doug Janz, a fish and wildlife specialist for the Water, Land and Air Protection Ministry, is recommending an organized cull of wolves and cougars, similar to those in other provinces grappling with the problem of so-called nuisance bears.

"There definitely seems to be a trend of increasing problem animals," Mr. Janz said.

Both the deer and marmot populations on Vancouver Island have plummeted in the last 10 years due to predation, he said.

It's estimated there are fewer than 80 Vancouver Island marmots left, 47 of which are in captivity. The government and the forest companies have invested millions in a recovery program.

"We don't want to turn it into a cougar feeding program," said Mr. Janz, who chairs the recovery program. Hunters are cheering the proposal but conservation groups are opposed.

Minister of Water, Land and Air Protection Joyce Murray is expected to make a decision on the cull proposal in late September, when she returns from vacation.

But other provinces already allow for culling of nuisance animals — an issue generating debate of another kind in central Canada.

On Thursday, Ontario New Democratic Party Leader Howard Hampton called on the province to give northern and rural municipalities the $1.8-million it's earned from a bear hunt organized to control nuisance animals.

While he refused to wade into the debate over the government's cancellation of the spring bear hunt, Mr. Hampton said bears are "everywhere" in northern and central Ontario.

Former premier Mike Harris cancelled the spring bear hunt in 1999 under intense pressure from southern Ontario-based animal rights groups.

Ontario gains financially from the bear hunt, said Mr. Hampton, but doesn't turn any of the money over to the municipalities to deal with wayward bears. The province should compensate municipalities based on the severity of the problem and for the cost of trapping and relocating bears, he said.

"This would only be a fair thing to do," he said.

Many bears in Ontario are now finding their way into built-up areas as urban sprawl reaches the hinterland.

"This is increasingly becoming a fairly serious problem," said Mr. Hampton, who believes the situation will grow worse as the animals forage for food to prepare for winter hibernation.

Recently, a bear mauled and killed a five-month-old baby to death in upstate New York. While Mr. Hampton said he couldn't predict a similar tragedy in Ontario, he suggested people could be at risk.

"This is starting to become a public-safety issue."

In B.C., Mr. Janz said that addressing habitat loss is part of a long-term solution.

He warned it could take 10 to 20 years for a critical drop in the deer population to cause a natural die-off of predators.
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#196718 - 05/18/03 09:51 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Hounds are loosed on cougars
BBVD,, can you hear me now?

I can give you article after article about the COUGAR problems.. and how ironic they seem to be after 1996,,,,,dah!

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John Craig
Spokesman-Review
March 8, 2003


Hound hunters are looking for troublesome cougars this week in Stevens, Ferry and Okanogan counties as state officials respond to county-declared ""cougar emergencies."

The counties are working with state Sen. Bob Morton, R-Orient, to increase pressure on state officials to heed rural residents' safety and economic concerns about cougars.


Commissioners took their cougar concerns to state Fish and Wildlife Director Jeff Koenings a week ago Friday in Morton's Olympia office. Koenings directed his staff to issue permits this week that allow hound hunters to kill 14 cougars in ""hot spots" the commissioners identified.


The hunting was under way by midweek, but no cats had been reported killed by Friday. The hunting may continue until next Saturday under the special permits.


Stevens County Commissioner Tony Delgado and Ferry County Commissioner Mike Blankenship said they aren't optimistic the special hunts will succeed because lack of snow and moisture makes tracking difficult. But Blankenship said he appreciates the Fish and Wildlife Department's quick response.


""I think the department did make a good-faith effort to help us, and I respect them for that," Blankenship said.


He urged residents to respond by reporting cougar sightings and incidents so state officials ""have a better handle on the numbers and where to go." Routine houndhunting permits, designed to keep cougar populations in check, are issued on the basis of citizen reports.


The permits issued this week are the kind usually reserved for situations in which a cougar has just threatened or attacked people or domestic animals. In this case, the permits were issued on ""general public safety threats" identified by county officials, according to John Andrews, Eastern Region director for the Department of Fish and Wildlife.


""We will be working very hard in those areas that they have identified," Andrews said.


He said the hunting will be more difficult because the hunters don't know exactly where to start their hounds, as they would if a homeowner had just seen a cougar in his or her back yard. Although the permits expire March 15, Andrews said more will be issued as new threats are identified by homeowners.


Permits for 10 cougars were issued this week in Okanogan County, where three cats already were targeted. Stevens and Ferry counties each got two permits.


Delgado said one of the permits will be used in the vicinity of a school bus stop near Buzzard Lake, about eight miles north of Loon Lake. A number of sightings have been reported in that area, he said.


Blankenship said hunting in Ferry County will be focused near Republic, where a cougar has been prowling around a mobile home park, and in the Deadman Creek drainage about five miles north of the intersection of U.S. Highway 395 and State Route 20.


In Okanogan County, houndsmen are looking for 13 cougars in the Loomis, Pine Creek, Wauconda, Nine Mile, Oroville, Spring Coulee-Happy Hill, Twisp and Winthrop areas.


""I just hope it works," said Okanogan County Commissioner Mary Lou Peterson.


She said cougars have been spotted near the elementary school in Oroville and at the community center in Twisp, among other areas where public safety is threatened.


""I don't want to wait until we have a child killed or another one of our ranchers loses $40,000 in stock like we had two years ago," Peterson said.


Chelan County Commissioner Ron Walter sat in on the Feb. 28 meeting in Morton's office, but said his county so far is satisfied with Fish and Wildlife efforts to control what appears to be a growing cougar population.


Fish and Wildlife enforcement Capt. Steve Duma urged residents to report cougar problems on the department's hotline or to their nearest Washington State Patrol office. The hotline number is (800) 477-6224.

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#196719 - 05/18/03 10:55 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Let me revise my statement... They dont seem to target adult humans. you saw the math, 10/11 are kids. I'd like to see the story on that last one if you'd got it. No sarcasm... It kinda interests me.

And the age thing... Dude seriously give it up. I respect the fact that you provide evidence, but cant you do it without making yourself look like an ass?

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#196720 - 05/19/03 05:47 AM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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#196721 - 05/19/03 08:03 AM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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And the age thing... Dude seriously give it up. I respect the fact that you provide evidence, but cant you do it without making yourself look like an ass?
Dude,, as stated many times, I am not here to try and win anybody over. I really care less if you and others think I am an ass!
You dont like my style, then dont bring it on by attacking me.

Did you see the story from Princeton from the above link? How about the one on the Pennisula?

Later Dude!

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#196722 - 05/28/03 10:10 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Registered: 07/12/02
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This was sooo entertaining I wanted to get it back up on the board. Kinda like an old Seinfeld episode. By the way, did those two posters ever fight????
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#196723 - 05/29/03 04:29 AM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Registered: 06/15/01
Posts: 1119
Loc: brownsville wa.
For those of you that do not know what a bremelo is it is a fat hooker that hangs out downtown bremerton to service the sailors.I did not apreciate being told to get the fat hooker off my face.There was no reason for it.I have never stood for any gun controll and am flat out against it.I think jim needs to quit posting after too much stupid juice.

I think I called it just right.Internet tough guys crack me up.The scary thought is that this idiot is proud to be packing a gun but can not even be civil here in this simple forrum.

No he passed that one up unlike what he told you all.That actually makes him pretty bright.

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#196724 - 05/29/03 06:14 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 403
Loc: Port Orchard
ltlcleo:
you never said where? I would be glad to put the emails up on the board so where?
as I said you called me out so name it.
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#196725 - 05/30/03 05:41 AM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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You keep it up NO MORE RECESS
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#196726 - 05/30/03 06:33 AM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Not sure why wolves have anything to do with cougars in Wa state. Here in Idaho wolves are a very real pain in the ass. The people who wanted them here don't live here... They are eating up the elk herd in the salmon river country. How many elk can 600 big dogs eat??? PRETTY SIMPLE AND SHOCKING MATH
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#196727 - 05/30/03 05:42 PM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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Loc: brier,wa
JG

Does someone have to add a WT element to this embarassing thread to end it? Atleast change the title or something....

OK I'll start it off....maybe someone can get a piece of Ramon's clothing and give it to a Cougar.
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#196728 - 05/31/03 05:39 AM Re: Cougar attack on the Kalama
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I'll ask Ramon for some old undies if you really think those WSU grads need something to chew on \:D
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