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#210037 - 09/08/03 12:20 AM chehalis tribal netting, interesting info
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United States v. Washington (No. 99-35104): Chehalis

In United States v. Washington, the Court held that because the Chehalis Tribe's fishing rights did not arise out of a treaty, the Tribe's catch allocation should come out of the State of Washington's share of the fish. In the Boldt decision, Judge Boldt determined that there should be an equitable (50/50) allocation of fish between tribes with treaty rights to fish and the State of Washington. The Chehalis Tribe's reservation was created by Executive Order rather than by treaty, and thus the Tribe has no off-reservation fishing rights—only on-reservation fishing rights. Because it is not a "treaty tribe," Chehalis is not a party to the Boldt litigation. Nevertheless, the State of Washington argues that the fish caught on-reservation by the Chehalis Tribe should come out of the treaty tribes' share.

The Ninth Circuit found that Judge Boldt's decision, though it does not specifically address on-reservation fishing by non-treaty tribes, "does establish the principle that no catch by non-treaty Indians should be attributed to the treaty tribes." The Court found that the Boldt decision does not seek to divide the allocation of fish by tribal versus non-tribal or tribal versus state, but instead only distinguishes between treaty and non-treaty shares. The Court also reasoned that allocating a non-treaty tribe's share of fish out of the treaty tribe's share would diminish the treaty right, which is impermissible. Therefore, the Chehalis Tribe's catch cannot be attributed to the treaty tribes' share, but must be taken out of the State's share instead.


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#210038 - 09/08/03 07:51 AM Re: chehalis tribal netting, interesting info
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Does that translate to mean that the Chehalis will fish Grays Harbor and the Chehalis River and net the Kings while the bay and the river are closed to everyone else? Like I've said before 50% of zero is not zero when it comes to tribal netting.
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#210039 - 09/08/03 01:53 PM Re: chehalis tribal netting, interesting info
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Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 199
Loc: Hoquiam/Newton
Grandpa, the Chehalis tribe don't have fising rights for the lower Chehalis or Grays Harbor. That area belongs to the Quinaults.

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#210040 - 09/08/03 03:47 PM Re: chehalis tribal netting, interesting info
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Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
You have to wonder if the "Executive Order" tribes have any agreement between them and the US government. In other words, do they have "subsistance" rules and stuff like that?

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#210041 - 09/08/03 03:50 PM Re: chehalis tribal netting, interesting info
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sounds like we better up the quota numbers for both sides to make it even...

frown

I guess its time to invest in a trout pond... cause thats the only place our kids will be able to fish in a few years.

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#210042 - 09/12/03 04:58 AM Re: chehalis tribal netting, interesting info
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Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
Yeah, unless they are indian......... But then, the indians will probably be able to come net in your fishpond.....

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