#210127 - 09/09/03 01:46 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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#210128 - 09/09/03 02:50 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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Juvenille at Sea
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Originally posted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy: The way I see it, we dont know anything unless Bush wants us to. We could know less then 1% of the information against Iraq.
I'll hold out for that 1%... Either way, we got rid of a terrorist. Who can deny that the man was NOT a terrorist?
Next, who can possibly deny that he sponsered terrorism? His regime alone was self sponsered. And if Bush says he was sponsering Al Quada, I dont need to see proof. That's why we hired him in the first place. Judgement.
Curtis That's exactly what the Bush Admin wants...they don't want you to think for yourself. They want you to believe whatever they say. If it makes you feel better to just believe in the almighty Dubya, then good. One things for sure, Haliburton/Cheney and Bush have a nose for oil...but that's not what this is about... LOL!!!
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#210129 - 09/09/03 03:20 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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River Nutrients
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Originally posted by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy:
3) Taliban/Al Quada are sponsered by who??
Saudi Arabia. What's your point? Curtis, I think it's fabulous that someone your age is interested in politics and takes notice of the geo-political scene. However, it's disconcernting that you sound so neoconservitive before you're even old enough to vote. Stlhead made a good point. You need to have some kind of reference when making a statement that goes against what's already been reported. I have pages and pages of documentation dispelling the link between Saddam and al Queda.
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#210130 - 09/09/03 03:24 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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Originally posted by goharley: I have pages and pages of documentation dispelling the link between Saddam and al Queda. And who's opinion would be in that documentation...
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#210131 - 09/09/03 03:43 PM
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River Nutrients
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Piper, the documentation comes from various news sources around the world. So it's no one's single opinion, but most of the information is derived from the CIA, FBI, and State Department. Even the Pentagon has begrudgingly admitted that fact now.
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#210132 - 09/09/03 03:54 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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Originally posted by goharley: the documentation comes from various news sources around the world That's what I thought... and we all know how biased the media is...
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#210133 - 09/09/03 04:05 PM
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Carcass
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So Piper, which way is the media biased? To the left or to the right? There are arguements on both sides of that question.
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#210134 - 09/09/03 04:09 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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River Nutrients
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I know what you're saying, but I don't think the newspapers are as biased as they used to be. Of course if a person only reads the opinion page and lives by what the liberal or conservative pundits write then, yes, that person will probably end up with the same opinion.
However, I read a lot from the Associated Press, Knight Ridders, and Rueters from Asia, Russia, England, Germany, as well as the US.
When I read the opinion page I take most of it with a grain of salt and can usually tell when they're just whining to hear themselves.
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#210135 - 09/09/03 04:28 PM
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you are probably right go harley it isn't as bad as it used to be. But still no matter what is published there is always the bias of the author(s) to be taken into consideration... I question if anything has ever been published that hasn't in some way been biased one way or another just by the fact that it is "people" doing the publishing and "people" are biased by nature... the liberal media preaches to the left and the left believe its true the conservative media preaches to the right and the right believes its true... even the middle of the road guys are biased one way or another depending on there views... This issue will be argued and argued and argued and I doubt anyone will change their views... that is the nature of arguing politics... kinda fun isn't it?? Anyway I'm just funnin with you guys...
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#210140 - 09/09/03 07:52 PM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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River Nutrients
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Here's a piece that's very interesting written by a credible source. You'll notice the facts noted are referenced. War on Terrorism Bogus It's lengthy, but taking the time to read something is what separates the informed from the ignorant. I've read about the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) on several different occasions. It's kind of scary, and surreal, how everything is neatly fitting together; almost like a Clancy book.
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#210143 - 09/10/03 01:54 AM
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Alevin
Registered: 02/03/02
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It's a cheap price to pay to see that our children/grandchildren don't have to deal with it later. Take care of busisness and keep taking care of busisness!
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#210144 - 09/10/03 02:06 AM
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River Nutrients
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Isnt the ol U S of A great!!! freedom of speach! Try that in Hussien land!
You bleeding heart liberals are all the same..Clinton let our own navy ship get bombed and all he did was drop a bomb in the middle of the dessesrt to retaliate..Why dont you look into who gave campaign money to the clinton family!!!!!
H2O- before you start talking about what Jesus would do you better read the bible..He told many to go to war!!
I believe in what we are doing by kickin there arss 100%.. we need to rid the world of terrorists and we just nipped a big chunk of change that supported them..
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#210145 - 09/10/03 02:30 AM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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Spawner
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I read that article that I believe goharley linked me to. Besides the few grammar errors in the document itself, I found a few fictionous statements as well. Here's what some basic surfing pulled up... http://www.newamericancentury.org/defense-20021006.htm You can actually download the report right here: http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf So what you have is a report written to a non profit organization, who really nobody paid attention to... Well anyways, that article just didnt do much for me. I've only been in high school journalism for one year, and even I can see it was poorly written and completely one sided. All it did was what the rest of you guys are doing, bringing up small tidbits of information to be anti-bush. Stlhd, or whatever your moniker is... You have a strange way of defining the word "terrorist". \Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.] One who governs by terrorism or intimidation. --Burke. I'd say that sums up Houssein rather nicely. Curtis
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#210146 - 09/10/03 03:03 AM
Re: NFR Do you know how much $87 Billion is?
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gooooooooooo BVvD!!!!!!!!!
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