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#210965 - 09/19/03 12:15 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Iron Head Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/12/00
Posts: 450
Loc: tacoma, Washington, US
Sorry guys, but I have to say that the majority of the broken rods are caused by fisherman.
The only rod I had broken was a Sage that had clashed with another rod the previous year. It took a whole year before for the microscopic crack to expand into a total breakage.
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#210966 - 09/19/03 01:16 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
FishinSinsation Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/12/02
Posts: 624
Loc: kenmore, wa
i liked the over the counter trade ASM had but i'll live with the new policy how often does anyone break rods? i broke my 1143 once and it wasnt even a true break.. all i did was snap the ceramic out of the top eye no big deal,.... have yet to "snap" any kind of rod and personally if you do its not the rods fault but the users fault ive seen many people reefing back on rods hand placement way above the cork pulling back as hard as they can.. thats why rods break.................................


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#210967 - 09/19/03 01:38 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Loomis Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 249
FS,Im glad you where standing next to me when this rod broke Im glad that you witnessed the abuse that I put the rod thru I hope u keep up the good work and I am sure everyone else that that should have a rod break will be glad that you where there to tell them that they did wrong.do not atempt to tell me that this was do to abuse if you where their then you would be able to speak until then keep the comments to your self.
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#210968 - 09/19/03 01:45 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
FishinSinsation Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/12/02
Posts: 624
Loc: kenmore, wa
eek eek eek chill out dude...

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#210969 - 09/19/03 01:50 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
FishinSinsation Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/12/02
Posts: 624
Loc: kenmore, wa
I am simply stating what I have witnessed while fishing, and I can tell you this also I was fishing next to a guy on the Puyallup he was hung up on a rock he was reefing and pulling so hard on his rod I was shocked it hadn't broke

Guess who I saw at sportco the very next day

He was complaining to the man behind the counter about how a 4lb humpy broke his rod&#8230;and how lamiglas doesn't make quality rods anymore..

Ive seen LOTS of people break rods on snags and not a single rod break on fish&#8230;.

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#210970 - 09/19/03 02:22 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
FishDoctor Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/05/02
Posts: 524
Loomis gl3 1024,
I broke the 1st up on the Kasiloff on a king, (too much stress , my fault.) rolleyes
I broke the 2nd after dragging a anchor over it on the bank, the next trip it broke on the first snag. mad I got another and lost it to big wild steelhead after it ripped the rod out of my hand. New name for that hole, "the gl3 hole"> eek
got lucky and I havn't broken or lost the one I have now, still doing well. smile
whats my point?
I have had excellent service from g.loomis.
I love their rods, great sensitivity and that equalls better trips.
Bought a 2nd, so the kid doesnt feel left out.
gl3+calcutta+ River=Happy FishDoctor laugh
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#210971 - 09/19/03 11:46 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Chrome454 Offline
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Registered: 11/28/00
Posts: 466
Loc: Drifting Down The Braids Of Sw...
Cast and Blast try- www.THcustom rods.com
Th builds a sweet rod, better than any factory loomis out there. I don't give a crap how sensitive IMX loomis rods are at 350+ there a damn rip off! Try a rainshadow with sicti guides and I swear you wont find a better rod for the money period!!! thumbs
Chrome
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#210972 - 10/02/03 03:54 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
rwgav8 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 521
Loc: Orting
Loomis are excelent rods but yes they are very spendy. Ill let all you guys in on a little secret...dont pay full price, check ebay. so what if the rod is used, if it gets broke, you have a brand new rod for about $100 less than new. I have broken my fair share of loomis and lami rods, some my fault, some not. I had my 1141IMX explode on me, never seen that hapen before. Pre-existing stress fracture, who knows but I returned it to loomis and had my replacement back, ready for the winter steelies, in about a week. I have yet to have a problem with loomis's return policy. But i guess in the end its all preference and personal finance that will cause you to make the decision on what rod manufacturer you choose, and use.

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#210973 - 10/02/03 11:42 AM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
elparquito Offline
The Chosen One

Registered: 02/09/00
Posts: 13542
Loc: Margaritaville
Loomis,

Just send the rod back to GLoomis. They will replace it for free. You'll just have to pay the $8 for shipping.

Check out this photo. This 1025 IMX snapped in about the same spot as yours. All I had to do was drop off the butt section to GLoomis and they replaced it for free. This 30lb tule snapped my rod on the hookset.

This is a "feature" of IMX rods. The price of a high performance graphite rod is the brittleness.

So far this season, we (the buddies I've fished with) have snapped 3 IMX 1141's, 1 GLX 1141, and 1 IMX 1025. IMX's break. It's a feature. Fortunately, GLoomis will replace all of them for free. Don't pay that stupid $55 fee. Just deal with GLoomis directly and you'll be fine.
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#210974 - 10/02/03 12:11 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 12535
Fishinsinsation,

I disagree with your contention that graphite rods only break if abused by anglers. Graphite fiber is very strong but also very brittle. It's fairly common for graphite rod blanks to have a weak spot where the number of layers of graphite fabric change on the mandrel. I've broken two flyrods at such spots, all with my hand only on the cork handle. Blanks can have defects that are not visibly detectable. I suppose that's why high end rods have the replacement policies they do; otherwise few would buy rods with such high potential for breakage.

Whether various rods are worth the money or not is a value judgement of each angler. It's silly for one person to declare a particular brand of rod as the best value, you get what you pay for, etc. It's only true for the speaker. It may, or may not, be true for me.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#210975 - 10/02/03 08:42 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Iron Head Offline
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Registered: 12/12/00
Posts: 450
Loc: tacoma, Washington, US
A question for the experts on rod material.
Why is it that the blank performance ratings/specifications are a bit higher than the identical pre-built rods?
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#210976 - 10/03/03 07:40 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
glowball Offline
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Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 786
Loc: bullcanyon
You can have them junk loomis rods. They used to be good but they sold out and aren't worth a darn anymore. St croix or rainshadow. Anything else is flushing money down the toilet. Once you've had an inside look at what these rods are really all about you will change your minds too.
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#210977 - 10/05/03 03:15 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
silverslayer Offline
Egg

Registered: 09/12/03
Posts: 3
Loc: Puyallup
I have neverbroke a rod till this year it happened to be what i consider the best rod for the money ww Grigg. Took to sportco on monday had the replacement on thursday all i payed was the shipping $10.00

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#210978 - 10/05/03 03:36 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Paranoid Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/04/99
Posts: 331
Loc: Snohomish
I have a question. Why are you fishing for silvers with a 1082 anyway. That is a light rated rod for summer fish in low water, not for coho in the fall. I am not surprised that it broke. I have broken two 1084c IMX rods because hooked into early chinook while late summer run fishing. Entirely my fault that the rods failed. The right tool for the right job. Right?

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#210979 - 10/05/03 09:17 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
fishforlife Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 240
Loc: redmond wash
ya just busted my loomis today 1024 i will never buy there junk any more thats two in one year so i guess i will look at lamiglass ? any help out there with a good steelhead rod
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#210980 - 10/05/03 09:54 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Sparkey Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/06/99
Posts: 1273
Loc: Western Washington
The ironic thing is that I am notorius for breaking rods yet its been years since I've broken a Loomis while fishing (aside from falling on them.) and in that time period, my go to rod has been my 1025 IMX that I have put through Hell and back!

In that same time period, I have broken a few Spey rods (Winston, CND, Scott) and just the other day, my 596 XP bit the dust...

...but my 1025 IMX keeps going strong!

You can not convince me that there is a lighter, more sensative rod on the market (aside from some of the latest GIII blanks from Sage). Yes, some may say Loomis' quiality took a small step down after Shimano bought them out but they are still far and above, the most well made rod there.
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#210981 - 10/06/03 02:38 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 12535
Gotta' laugh. Since my post last week, I've got to add another busted graphite to my repertoire. Casting for silvers on the Chehalis last Friday when my spinner hung up. Just a little lift and - POWW - nothing like the sound of shattering graphite exploding in the air! Funny thing, I've pulled much harder than that on snags in the past with no ill effect. By coincidence, that was an old, closeout Loomis blank of unknown pedigree.

Mini fishing report: never have I seen so many silvers that didn't want what I had to offer. Salmo: 0 Sidekick: 1, that he graciously shared with me. Ocean bright and great on the BBQ!

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#210982 - 10/06/03 02:59 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
jeff'e'd Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 978
Loc: Snohomish, WA USA
Is there a way to make one of these broken one piece rods a repaired/usable two-piece?

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#210983 - 10/06/03 03:05 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 12535
Jeff'e'd,

Sometimes. I've got a small supply of broken sections of graphite rod blanks. Sometimes it's possible to make a ferrle connection and salvage a rod, making it suitable for back-up use. The one I broke Friday took out a 10 or 11 inch section, however. I'll probably salvage the reel seat.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#210984 - 10/06/03 05:43 PM Re: busted loomis 1082s imx
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Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 168
I broke my Loomis Premier 4wt. this summer (on a fish). The people at loomis said there was nothing they could do for me since the rod was discontinued. I assured the person on the phone that was reason enough not to buy a loomis again. Life time warranties speak for themselves.

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