What a bunch of bull S**t. They get to net all weekend long since they missed a couple of days for the high water. Watched a local native pull in 2-300 fish last night per drift. These are all fish that are suppose to be getting bye. They say it is so they can get the forcasted 30,00 plus Coho returning to the salmon hatchery. Well where in the hell are they. Out of all those fish there was probably 10% that were hatchery fish. I am sorry but Mel Moon has got to go. You cant have an indian be the head Biologist for an indian tribe.
They dont open Lake Washington until there is 450,000 or so sockeyes for escapement. They say we only need 4000 Chinook for the whole Quillayute system. Sorry but the Quillatute could sustain over a million fish for spawning. I have lived here my whole life and can remember when you could literally walk across salmon up on the North Fork of the Calawah. Not any more! You are lucky to see a few hand fulls of them spawing. Just a little pissed off about all this lately. Just wish the damn state would figure it out. So Bill if you are reading this pull your head out of your ass and get a set of nuts and do something about it. Oh yeah I forgot you are retiring and probably dont care anymore.

I was sick almost every day for 4 years down there watching the thousands upon thousands of wild salmon and steelhead being taken from that river and sold for .10$ a pound of used for halibut bait.

I remember in spring of 2000 when we had that low water and they just raped the wild steelhead run. I also remember walking into the Seafood plant that april one night seeing 4,500 wild steelhead frozen in piles with heads and tails cutt off that were not sold as there was no market. The fish plant worker that was there that night went on to tell me how many fish there were and that they would be used for halibut bait as they were all freezer burnt anyways.

I remember getting bashed by someone from WDFW on this board when I contested the number of wild steelhead which were reported to be harvested that winter on the Quiluete System by treaty fisheries. I remember he posted that only 1400 or so wild steehead were harvested that winter when I knew there were many more than that. 4,500 were only the fish caught in March and April. And that 4,500 were the ones that couldnt be sold and actually went through the fish plant. Many of the fisherman go through other buyers for a higher price or sell off of the bank. And that year they had a very high percentage of wild fish caught in the early part of the run.

Who knows how many wild fish were really harvested.

I am pretty sure it was the spring of 2001 and not 2000.

I gues the year isnt that important as this crap goes on every year.

Another thing people might fisnd interesting.

I saw time after time when Queets and Hoh fisherman came up to La Push to sell fish they had netted on the days they are not suposed to be fishing. I have personally had the buyer tell me that they come and sell him fish that they had poached at night on closed days. He actually told me that the Queets fisherman have to be extra sneeky as they are watched a little closer.

Ya gotta love those lovley indians. Maybe they should get 100% of the fish and a buttload more casino's and free booze to boot. Think that would make them happy? I personally doubt it!
Chrome

This weekend?
Where's the link to the netting schedule?

OK Found this but didn't find any thing about additional days. Where is that information?

http://www.wa.gov/wdfw/fish/tribal/index.htm

So, basically they will be netting the mouth of the Sol Duc every moday 6am thru thursday 6pm till the 22nd of November....That really sucks.........

And they want 50% of the Alaska fish as well

That's the normal pattern on the Quillayute from what I remember and yeah, it always sucks.

The thing that really, really sucks is that anytime they want to they can have a ceremonial fishery and take what they want as opposed to what they need. I am not a big Indian basher by any means but the way the Quillayutes manage their fishery is appalling, IMO.

All I have to add is that the ONLY reason certain fisheries haven't totally collapsed on the westside rivers is that you can't gillnet when the rivers are blown. The ONLY reason. If a collapse does happen it won't be because of gillnetting...OH NO .... it must be due to some environmental reason, or logging

The way that certain tribes behaved during the drought we had over there in years past was appalling. Using jet boats to herd trapped salmon into gillnets. DISGUSTING

I will stop now before I blow a blood vessel

Not much you can do about it except for venting...But venting feels so good sometimes aaaaaaahhhhhhh venting

The premise of this thread was that they get days to "make up" for days lost due to high water. I have been unable to find where the information about additional days, unscheduled days is located.

Are the nets going to be in this weekend?

Well of coarse they are not going to tell the public about it. I watched it with my own two eyes. It is 3:37pm right know and we will see if the nets come out tonight like they are suppose to.

Hey Gutz,

Why don't you find out from the source. Call the Quileute fisheries director, Mel Moon, 360-374-5695, fax 360-374-9250 or email quileute@olypen.com

Here's a great resource for all your Quil info.

www.goia.wa.gov/directory/pdf/quileu.pdf

Let us know what you find out!

Would you let us know Pat?

Hay Pat, if they don't pull-em, do the right thing........

What's that, strap on the 9MM and steal their gear?

There are some that have always fished on the days they are not supposed to. The just drift nett at night and sell to buyers in Port Angeles.

so if these fisha managers and the wdfg arent gonna do nothing about the flagrant netting at night, lets jus try to get a intiative going, including: people with cameras watching them net, hoodsport chums, the queets, and at night...im sure alot of us on this board would be willing to spend the money to get a commercial going? i looked it up and its only 5 dollars to get the intiative process rollng..someone who can word better than me, and then send it in and if it gets approved, walaa its on the ballots..show some nasty coverage of netting and i know the public wouldnt support that anymore..

hope i made sense lol, after rereading it, i left some things out..

Nothing is ever gonna change. They do whatever they want and the government entities look the other way. Its they way it has always been and its the way it will always be.

As has been said on here before the I believe the state has alot more power on these issues than they let on but their policy has been to just take the tribes word for it in all situations.

The only thing I could see changing anything is if we get a conservative govenor that is a sport fisherman.

Its funny all states in the 9th district court fall under the bolt decision but Washington is the only one that is so liberal with the tribes when it comes to fish and game.

I think Washington is the only state that allows the comercial harvest of steelhead under the Boldt Decision.