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#225152 - 11/21/03 11:41 AM what a hog!
papaslap Offline
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Registered: 07/02/03
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Loc: Olympia
found this piece in the Olympian


Quote:
FISH FIND: On Nov. 7, during a fall chinook spawning ground survey on the lower East Fork of the Lewis River, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife biologists found a naturally spawned, 32.3-pound wild coho.

The dead fish was just upstream from Daybreak Park. Based on analysis performed by the department's statewide scale reader, it was determined the fish was a 4-year-old with one year of freshwater rearing.
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#225153 - 11/21/03 11:52 AM Re: what a hog!
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#225154 - 11/21/03 11:56 AM Re: what a hog!
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
I bet that's that's the big one I lost. It was on a diffrent river and all, but those big guys tend to stray. See, that's the proof I have been waiting for.

I almost caught a 30 plus pound coho! (Well, at least I was fishing for coho, in a state that had a 30 plus pound wild coho.)

What a great fish. Sure, hatchery fish are just as good . . . .
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#225155 - 11/21/03 12:03 PM Re: what a hog!
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Registered: 10/10/03
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Loc: The right side of the line
There is a river in Alaska where Coho of 20lbs plus are very common and high 20's not all that rare. You catch so many fish that big in a day you kind of get used to them being big and lose perspective. I never bothered to weigh one.
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#225156 - 11/21/03 01:53 PM Re: what a hog!
fp Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 2888
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
Bardo, Ya got the twirlie bird gassed up?

Now, how do we find that river up there?

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#225157 - 11/21/03 05:10 PM Re: what a hog!
ROCK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 478
Loc: Between 2 Mountains
Is it a monster coho or a chinook?

Thursday, November 13, 2003
By ALLEN THOMAS, Columbian staff writer

State fisheries biologists can't decide if a 32.3-pound salmon carcass found last week in the lower East Fork of the Lewis River is a coho or a chinook. If it's a coho, it is one of the largest ever handled.

Scale samples from the lunker have been sent to Olympia for analysis.

The gums are definitely white, the telltale sign of a coho. An examination of the pyloric caeca, a part of the stomach, also indicates it is a coho, said Joe Hymer, a Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife biologist.

The shape of the snout looks like that of a coho.

But the spotting on the salmon tends to appear more like a fall chinook, and so does the tail.

The world-record coho salmon caught on sport gear was a 33-pound, 4-ounce fish caught in 1989 in the Salmon River of New York.

The Washington state freshwater coho record is 25.27 pounds from the Quinault River of the Olympic Peninsula in 2001. Washington's saltwater coho record is slightly larger, a 25.34-pound fish taken out of Sekiu in the Strait of Juan de Fuca.
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#225158 - 11/21/03 09:30 PM Re: what a hog!
Brad_tgl Offline
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Registered: 08/30/03
Posts: 846
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
I wonder if they will post a pic on the coho? I'd like to know the measurements on such a specimen. The biggest coho I've seen caught was on the Elwha a couple of years ago. I netted one for the guy and it was 22-23 pounds. When the record saltwater coho was caught out at Sekiu my friend had caught a coho that stood would have been the record.
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#225159 - 11/22/03 06:03 PM Re: what a hog!
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Registered: 08/15/00
Posts: 107
Loc: Longview, WA
They did have a pic on another board, but it was a spawned fish so it wasn't very pretty, just BIG.

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#225160 - 11/22/03 06:52 PM Re: what a hog!
cowlitzfisherman Offline
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Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 1828
Loc: Toledo, Washington
Put your money on the "chinook:! laugh
That is where I am putting my big bucks! laugh laugh

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#225161 - 11/22/03 10:47 PM Re: what a hog!
Woodsy Wayne Offline
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Registered: 01/25/02
Posts: 243
Loc: everett
The Coho seem to get bigger every year, on the OP, there are several over 20, so a fish that size don't surprise me too much.

Some of the Nates released at Seiku looked like Kingers.

T'was probably a smart Coho

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#225162 - 11/23/03 05:59 PM Re: what a hog!
Rob Allen Offline
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Registered: 05/10/03
Posts: 311
Loc: Vancouver WA
just hope the stud found a wild female to make it with

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#225163 - 11/23/03 06:39 PM Re: what a hog!
Symbiosis Offline
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Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 79
Loc: Olympia
Today's Sea-times has a piece on, what I'm assuming is, the same fish. It includes this little segment;

'The sampling crews brought the fish back to the Vancouver office for species confirmation.

Based on the pyloric caeca count, it appeared to be somewhat more of a coho than a chinook.

In addition, the fish had a white gumline and kype attributed to a coho, but some large spotting, a large-size adipose fin and the general large size of the fish raised some doubt. Fin ray counts were also no help as counts overlap between chinook and coho.

"Based on the scale pattern it is a coho, but in some instances we've had salmon that were hybrids (a mix of chinook and coho), and the only way we can figure out exactly is through a DNA sampling, which were are planning on doing very shortly," Hymer said. '

What does this mean? a natural hybrid? .....any bio/knowledgable types out there want to weigh in? salmo? Maybe this issue's already been worked over on this board but if it is a hybrid what are the future implications? will there be more?

Do we throw out the records?....hmmmmmm & we thought the regs were cumbersome now.

Future concern? or anomaly?
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#225164 - 11/23/03 07:31 PM Re: what a hog!
JacobF Offline
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Registered: 01/03/01
Posts: 797
Loc: Post Falls, ID
I wonder how often or even if it's possible for chinook and coho to cross breed. A couple years ago at Westport, my buddy caught a 20 pound salmon that had black gums and tounge, but absolutely no spots on the tale.

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#225165 - 12/31/03 08:33 PM Re: what a hog!
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Registered: 11/24/03
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Does anyone know what the DNA results were on this mystery Hawg. I still vote giant coho.
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#225166 - 12/31/03 08:44 PM Re: what a hog!
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Loc: Olympia
That is what the article stated. beathead
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#225167 - 01/01/04 04:21 PM Re: what a hog!
Sid Fishious Offline
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Registered: 01/27/02
Posts: 158
Loc: seattle,wa
I just want to believe it's a silver, this kind of story is what gets me going in the morning.
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#225168 - 01/01/04 07:07 PM Re: what a hog!
Jaydee Offline
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 968
Loc: Paradise City!
I saw one in '02 in the salt that was without a doubt the biggest coho I've ever seen. I don't think it crested 30 but this was way off shore. They do have an amazing growth rate in that last year of life and this boy didn't have that hook of a fully mature male coho. Ofcourse in the ocean its a selective fishery and we could have netted it, but I know it was a coho with the adipose intact.
With all the feed off our coast recently and the fact that there will be no Pinks to compete with, that we should be optimistic to see more of these magnificant specimans in our waters in the new year. If I accually see one "that big" in WA again I would be pleasantly suprised. Will always wonder how big that fish would have been once it entered its River? Who knows, maybe it did end up in the Lewis, or...?
No Jpeg to share and my 35mm shots didn't turn out well, but the pics I have seen of it don't do it justice since it never was landed. And the fish seemed to be relatively unharmed.
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#225169 - 01/26/04 02:29 AM Re: what a hog!
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 12621
Here's another one of those freak coho.... a wild fish that was passed above the hatchery into the Clackamas in 2002. It measured 41.5 inches long and was estimated at 33-34 pounds. YOWZA!
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#225170 - 01/26/04 02:45 AM Re: what a hog!
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A HOG...no doubt.

But UUUUGGGGLLLYYY...yikes!

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Mike

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#225171 - 01/26/04 11:19 AM Re: what a hog!
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Registered: 06/05/00
Posts: 478
Loc: Woodinville, WA, USA
If you were a female coho, that beast would have been quite attractive-looking laugh

If you were another male coho, you probably would have left him the h__l alone wink

All told, he was a "beautiful" fish.

Regards.

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Woodinville
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