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#228681 - 01/20/04 10:00 PM NFR-State Of The Union
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WOW eek Bush Has got Balls.

watching it right now thumbs

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#228682 - 01/20/04 10:15 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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You're right! How he can stand there and lie for an hour and keep a straight face is truly impressive eek
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#228683 - 01/20/04 10:39 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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evidently he never made eye contact with Kennedy...

that cracked me up! :p

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#228684 - 01/20/04 11:14 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Kennedy just made himself and the rest of his party look foolish.


Funny, I didnt catch the lies. confused

I did hear alot of statements about things of down to earth reality that may be unpopular to some extreemist groups but its the way it is, and we have taken the correct steps so far to deal with it and now we no these stepps will be continued.

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#228685 - 01/20/04 11:26 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Funny, I didnt catch the lies
Just like all politicians.........it was when his lips were moving. wink
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#228686 - 01/20/04 11:28 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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rofl

funny dans... and non partisan!

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#228687 - 01/20/04 11:52 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Aack, I'm trying, I'm trying really hard, Nope, wouldn't be prudent - GRANDPA - I NEED THE FOIL!!!!!!!!!!
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#228688 - 01/20/04 11:58 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Well, he had my vote for re-election (like chosing between cancer and aids really) until the crap with amnesty for the illegals. Anyone even think about how much influence on our laws and legislation 11 million new voters can have?
Look at California, Hispanics already have a VERY large effect on lawmaking, imagine what that will be then with another 3-4 million....
I am tired of politicians selling out America for votes.... Shame on him.
Seal the border, then fine. But giving amnesty and leaving the border as open as it is and they will only come in greater droves. Remember Reagans amnesty in 86? That was supposed to end the illegal flood... Yeah, right!

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#228689 - 01/21/04 12:21 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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The migration will never stop as long as wages in Mexico are $1/hr and $7 an hour here in the states. These folks are just trying to feed their families. Mexico gets capital inflows of somoething like $11 billion a year from paychecks being sent home.
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#228690 - 01/21/04 12:37 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Silver Hilton,
I'd also run across the border and work if I was a native of Mexico and my family was hungry, but the timing of Bush's amnesty offer stinks.

I doubt the Administrations best intentions were for the hispanic families left behind in Mexico.

Some of the crap both parties have tried to pull off over the years is so cleche' and predictable that it's hard to believe they actually do it. It's like watching my 2 year old try and steal a piece of candy. evil

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#228691 - 01/21/04 01:04 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Wait a minute guys, did we watch the same SOTU speech? I thought Bush said "NO AMNESTY!" confused

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#228692 - 01/21/04 01:14 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Why is it that we always have to choose between the lessor of 2 evils?
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#228693 - 01/21/04 01:17 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Quote:
Originally posted by wolverine:
Why is it that we always have to choose between the lessor of 2 evils?
because there's usually only two names on the ballot? laugh

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#228694 - 01/21/04 01:25 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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because there's usually only two names on the ballot?
Unless you throw Perot or Nader in the mix.............then you have two evils and a whack-job. laugh
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#228695 - 01/21/04 01:34 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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It sucks, we are screwed and Gas continues to go up, .25 cents in the last two weeks !!!
What Gives?
I hate the republican Party!!!!!!!!!!!
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#228696 - 01/21/04 02:26 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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What was kennedy on??? I hope he has a designated driver this time.. Was that Al sharpton asleep and drooling on himself? The whole thing would last about 15 minutes if they'd stop that anoying clapping for every syallable that he says. Always a fun time, thank god it happens only once a year! It scares me when I actually see the faces of the people in power in this country. Its pretty frightening when you cant tell if they are alive or not!

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#228697 - 01/21/04 04:04 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Can I get an AMEN Brotha !!!!
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#228698 - 01/21/04 09:18 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Eddie.....Wrap your whole head in three layers of foil..that way you will create a force field powerful enough that you won't hear or see anything.

With so many crucial fishing related topics needing attention I was hoping we would not regress back to politics...
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#228699 - 01/21/04 10:46 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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I was in school and missed the speech; did Bush touch on the environment?

I heard that he proposes some type of funding for Community Colleges to train those out of work. That make any sense? They once held jobs so they are obviously trained. Seems to me the money needs to go to creating more jobs for Americans.

Perhaps if the borders were a little tighter and less immigrants were given amnesty, then out of work Americans would be able (or forced) to take jobs they've been reluctant to perform in the past - like picking fruit and cleaning Walmarts.
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#228701 - 01/21/04 11:54 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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I was going to reply to this post with a list of things that are so so wrong with this administration but I believe I would be singing to the choir or it would go on deaf ears. the deaf ears beleive in the propaganda and lies so much I'm tired of waisting my time on you.

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#228702 - 01/21/04 12:13 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Enlighten us on all of the liberal governments and countries in the world that are powerhoses in terms of economic contribuiton ,charitable contribution, first to put there hand up and volunteer to defend people that cannot defend themselves and give them hope for just a bit of freedom to have what we have in this country, developing technologies, medicines, science not just copying what others do? What system is bottom line better for the average citizen of the world.

I think what will be on your list are nations that are essentially welfare states.

So go ahead and vote for a ideology that sounds good but in practice does little for it's own people and almost nothing for others. In the process tear down a system that produces private charitable funds in excess of all the countries in the world combined public and private charitable donations. That would be a great thing for the world.

You cannot have your cake and eat it as they say and a mature person ,one who accepts the responsibilty that comes along with his fortune in this world , thinks about others before himself.
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#228703 - 01/21/04 12:15 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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GP,

THE FOIL ISN'T WORKING ANYMORE!!

Even with multiple layers I can still hear the voices telling me what to do.

I think my commie dentist put receivers in my teeth instead of fillings!

ooops, gotta go now.... the black helicopters are looking for me again.
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#228704 - 01/21/04 12:26 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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the black helicopters are looking for me again.
Aim at the Roto Head laugh
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#228705 - 01/21/04 12:57 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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I vote for the piss and moan Auntie, far better to complain than to actually do something. help
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#228706 - 01/21/04 02:56 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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You know, I'm very very liberal, but I used to watch everyone of Reagan's and Bush I's state of the unions, so I would at least know what I was up against. But I can't stand to even look at this one. That idiotic smirk is just too much to bear.

His dad was obviously a smart guy, with a wealth of experience and a long record of public service, war hero, spy, ambassador, etc. You could have some respect for the guy. A bad president but at least a president. Reagan was a lightweight but at least he could pull it off. when you looked at him, you could buy that he was the leader of the free world (at least until he opened his mouth). But this one simply does not fill the suit! He looks like some dopey kid dressed up in his dad's clothes (pun intended I guess).

Never mind that he didn't even win. He's a bag man, the point guy in a scheme to deliver this country and its economy to the cronies that have been handling him and giving him passes his whole career. The policies are completely scorched earth, as if they don't even care about re-election; just take the money and run. The surplus didn't evaporate into thin air; it went into people's pockets. Guess which people. Another way to characterize a "jobless" recovery is as a "100%-profit" recovery. Woo hoo! Thanks Uncle Dick.

You know what grandpa? If by some fluke it could somehow happen, Sharpton would be an absolute disaster for this country, and a 100% improvement over our current leadership.

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#228707 - 01/21/04 02:56 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Commercial netting of wild ESA steelhead on the Columbia.....Possible cancellation of the Sockeye fishery in Lake Washington this summer when the largest return ever is expected.......Sturgeon closures......

Now there are a couple of things to get started on when you guys are done griping about politics...

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#228708 - 01/21/04 03:04 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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For all of you that thought Bush said he was offering amnesty, he distinctly said he opposed amnesty. Here's what he said:

"Tonight I also ask you to reform our immigration laws, so they reflect our values and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers, when no Americans can be found to fill the job. This reform will be good for our economy -- because employers will find needed workers in an honest and orderly system. A temporary worker program will help protect our homeland -- allowing border patrol and law enforcement to focus on true threats to our national security. I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.


Here's a link to the entire text.

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/01/20/sotu_speech/
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#228709 - 01/21/04 08:07 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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BillyBob...Now you've done it...confused the folks with facts...So much easier to hate someone just because.....
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#228710 - 01/21/04 08:11 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Billy Bob...Now you've done it...confused the issue with facts....DARN...so much esier to hate someone just because
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#228712 - 01/22/04 05:11 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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I just had the impression throughout the entire disgraceful event that Cheney's whole arm was rammed up Jr's arse as if in some kind of Hensonesque nightmare.

I was just hoping someone could take the time to explain something to me?

You know that big 'tax cut' that brought our economy around? Anyone believe that crap, really?

Probably..............and that my friends is disgraceful.

Lets see....the world is safer from terror because we got Sadaam (big, bad, evil, plot-to-kill-my-fathering, bad guy yes, terrorist no) ...yet Osama lives, Al Qaeda is regrouping the threatcon is yellow (or is it orange.....AGAIN!)....this is "safer"? I'd feel safer with Gabby Hayes as President....at least we'd all get the good whiskey!

While not lies directly these are both misrepresentations of the facts.

Worst President since Herbert Hoover and maybe (probably)the dumbest.....that's the sorry state of our union.
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#228713 - 01/22/04 08:33 AM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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H2O.....I was wondering when you would crawl out from under your rock...Can't lure you out with critical fishing issues but a good Bush bashing works every time....

Any thoughts on anything to do with fishing?
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#228714 - 01/22/04 12:56 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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To me a misrepresentation of the facts = lie (at least that what my wife tells me). Oh this is just the begining (IMO). I think they are waiting for october to find the WMD's.

Tax cut = joke
Immigratioin policies = hilarious
WMD = too funny
Bush out of Office = PRICELESS!
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#228715 - 01/22/04 01:31 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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Yeah g'pa....here is my fishy thought for the day.

I think I'll step out into the backyard and see if I can't hook another native steelhead today.

Happy now?

You know your republican deity is taking a big republican dump in our backyard, environmentally speaking don't you? But you don't care do you? You'll probably just hire someone with questionable immigration status to clean up the mess for you.

....while paying him or her far less than you'd expect to make yourself were that your station in life.

State of our union: Sheep....shepherded poorly.
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#228717 - 01/22/04 03:18 PM Re: NFR-State Of The Union
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I think everybody that was interested has had their say, so going to lock it up.
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