Enlighten us on all of the liberal governments and countries in the world that are powerhoses in terms of economic contribuiton ,charitable contribution, first to put there hand up and volunteer to defend people that cannot defend themselves and give them hope for just a bit of freedom to have what we have in this country, developing technologies, medicines, science not just copying what others do? What system is bottom line better for the average citizen of the world.

I think what will be on your list are nations that are essentially welfare states.

So go ahead and vote for a ideology that sounds good but in practice does little for it's own people and almost nothing for others. In the process tear down a system that produces private charitable funds in excess of all the countries in the world combined public and private charitable donations. That would be a great thing for the world.

You cannot have your cake and eat it as they say and a mature person ,one who accepts the responsibilty that comes along with his fortune in this world , thinks about others before himself.

GP,

THE FOIL ISN'T WORKING ANYMORE!!

Even with multiple layers I can still hear the voices telling me what to do.

I think my commie dentist put receivers in my teeth instead of fillings!

ooops, gotta go now.... the black helicopters are looking for me again.

Aim at the Roto Head

I vote for the piss and moan Auntie, far better to complain than to actually do something.

You know, I'm very very liberal, but I used to watch everyone of Reagan's and Bush I's state of the unions, so I would at least know what I was up against. But I can't stand to even look at this one. That idiotic smirk is just too much to bear.

His dad was obviously a smart guy, with a wealth of experience and a long record of public service, war hero, spy, ambassador, etc. You could have some respect for the guy. A bad president but at least a president. Reagan was a lightweight but at least he could pull it off. when you looked at him, you could buy that he was the leader of the free world (at least until he opened his mouth). But this one simply does not fill the suit! He looks like some dopey kid dressed up in his dad's clothes (pun intended I guess).

Never mind that he didn't even win. He's a bag man, the point guy in a scheme to deliver this country and its economy to the cronies that have been handling him and giving him passes his whole career. The policies are completely scorched earth, as if they don't even care about re-election; just take the money and run. The surplus didn't evaporate into thin air; it went into people's pockets. Guess which people. Another way to characterize a "jobless" recovery is as a "100%-profit" recovery. Woo hoo! Thanks Uncle Dick.

You know what grandpa? If by some fluke it could somehow happen, Sharpton would be an absolute disaster for this country, and a 100% improvement over our current leadership.

Commercial netting of wild ESA steelhead on the Columbia.....Possible cancellation of the Sockeye fishery in Lake Washington this summer when the largest return ever is expected.......Sturgeon closures......

Now there are a couple of things to get started on when you guys are done griping about politics...

For all of you that thought Bush said he was offering amnesty, he distinctly said he opposed amnesty. Here's what he said:

"Tonight I also ask you to reform our immigration laws, so they reflect our values and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers, when no Americans can be found to fill the job. This reform will be good for our economy -- because employers will find needed workers in an honest and orderly system. A temporary worker program will help protect our homeland -- allowing border patrol and law enforcement to focus on true threats to our national security. I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.


Here's a link to the entire text.

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/01/20/sotu_speech/

BillyBob...Now you've done it...confused the folks with facts...So much easier to hate someone just because.....

Billy Bob...Now you've done it...confused the issue with facts....DARN...so much esier to hate someone just because

I just had the impression throughout the entire disgraceful event that Cheney's whole arm was rammed up Jr's arse as if in some kind of Hensonesque nightmare.

I was just hoping someone could take the time to explain something to me?

You know that big 'tax cut' that brought our economy around? Anyone believe that crap, really?

Probably..............and that my friends is disgraceful.

Lets see....the world is safer from terror because we got Sadaam (big, bad, evil, plot-to-kill-my-fathering, bad guy yes, terrorist no) ...yet Osama lives, Al Qaeda is regrouping the threatcon is yellow (or is it orange.....AGAIN!)....this is "safer"? I'd feel safer with Gabby Hayes as President....at least we'd all get the good whiskey!

While not lies directly these are both misrepresentations of the facts.

Worst President since Herbert Hoover and maybe (probably)the dumbest.....that's the sorry state of our union.

H2O.....I was wondering when you would crawl out from under your rock...Can't lure you out with critical fishing issues but a good Bush bashing works every time....

Any thoughts on anything to do with fishing?

To me a misrepresentation of the facts = lie (at least that what my wife tells me). Oh this is just the begining (IMO). I think they are waiting for october to find the WMD's.

Tax cut = joke
Immigratioin policies = hilarious
WMD = too funny
Bush out of Office = PRICELESS!

Yeah g'pa....here is my fishy thought for the day.

I think I'll step out into the backyard and see if I can't hook another native steelhead today.

Happy now?

You know your republican deity is taking a big republican dump in our backyard, environmentally speaking don't you? But you don't care do you? You'll probably just hire someone with questionable immigration status to clean up the mess for you.

....while paying him or her far less than you'd expect to make yourself were that your station in life.

State of our union: Sheep....shepherded poorly.

I think everybody that was interested has had their say, so going to lock it up.