annual wild steelhead limit 5 daily limit 1
posession limit 1.

when you retain 5 wild steelhead you are done steelheading for the year PERIOD.
no two wild steelhead kept may be from the same river system. Calawah, Sol Duc Dickey Bogie= all one river system

Guides client caught fish go against the guides annual limit. When the guide's clients retain 5 steelhead he is done guiding steelhead for the year. The 5 fish must each come from a different river.

rob and your point being??????????

My point being is that i think harvesting wild steelhead is stupid and selfish but i am setting that aslide to make an effort to put a reasonable long term solution on the tabe for all sport fishers to agree to...

Rob..There are a lot of folks out there who think fishing in general is selfish and stupid.

So you guys want to give the native fishery away forever? are you guys on drugs! By closing this down forever you can kiss late season goodbye, using bait, single barbless hooks, catch & release . Guides are going to lose thier jobs, The indians are going to get our fish rights(which isnt much) Iam not saying I bonk natives I just think were screwed. ONce the state takes away you wont ever get it back!!!! pull the nets and there would be lots of fish!

Clients that retain native fish become part of the guides limit of natives? That explains alot.People have this image that native fish are so much superior, yet are easily duped by fisherman. Any fish that is not clipped has the potential of being a hatchery fish,there are fish planted each season that are raised in hatcheries that Do Not get clipped.Let us stop wasting our tax dollars, and resouces and ask the Quillute (sp) tribe and the fisheries of BC what and how they do it and enlist those plans into our planting protocols. Work smarter not harder, course this would leave all of those great scientists and resource managers with little to do but count the masses of fish that return..............

It's painfully clear that the other side of this debate has no interest in workable compromises in any way shape or form.. This is exactly why WSR is needed now.. This is the same hard line timber companies took back in the 1980's when the idea of thinning cuts was popular among enviromental groups and is precicely why so many timber companies are out of bussiness..
Seeing as how anglers wanting to harvest wild steelhead do not care about reaching a workable real agreement I see no reason in offering anything more.. I say to hell with wild steelhead harvest forever. anyone who keeps a wild steelhead or makes a living as a guide who allows clients to harvest wild steelhead doesn't deserve to be allowed to fish..

also about foregone opportunity.. Read Todd's article. HE KNOWS MORE THAN YOU!!!

I remember a few years ago I was at La Push watching the Indiaans come in with their catch. Looking into the bed of a truck was a plastic bin about 4 feet square and about 4 feet tall. It was filled to the brim with native steel head. One days catch for one Indian set. I remember thinking " if I were a native bonker there are more fish in that bin taken in one day than I would take in a life time."

I don't think It's an issue of C&R or bonking I think it's an issue of what's right. The only management technique the state seems to use is shut down the sports guys. The Indians and the commercials never get touched. The reason !!! Because it's easy.... The comercial guys threaten to Sue and are in bed with the commision. The wsfw is affraid of the indians, so they pick on us. We are not united, There are many groups and they are mostly never willing to give an inch to another. So the game dept. sticks it to us.

I'm not saying we need to keep killing native steelhead but!!!!

If we don't unite soon what we have now will become a memory. I think we should fight this tooth and nail to try and keep some control of our rights if not they will be gone. After all this is our fishery also.