After 20 pages of discussion, the thread finally calms down and it was closed. It doesnt make much sense. What's the deal? It was just about to get beyond the insults and you chose to close it. I'm pretty sure I wont get the real answer, but thought i'd ask anywho......

Hairlip,

Just print it out and you wont need to buy toilet paper for a few days...

Closing it was a good thing

Oh, I dont know Piper..... I have septic.

I wont argue some of it was personal. Some of it was productive. But most of it needed to be said. I am better informed because of it. The timing is what i cant understand. There were several times I thought it was close to getting the axe, and I appriciated the patience from the moderators. If it made sense to leave it open thruogh the insults, why close it at a point where they had stopped? It leads me to think that this BB is very political, and a bit of "political muscle" was exercised.

I think it was just too long and took up too much space. I for one stopped reading it after 3 pages.

Not sure what "political muscle" you're referring to, but it boiled down to one thing: personal attacks.

The thread was on the verge of being close on a couple of occasions and when I got in from fishing yesterday I had a couple of emailsregarding the personal attacks and that was enough for me.

It had nothing to do with views or the like. If you feel that it has something to do with an opposing viewpoint, please refer to the Town of Forks thread with the discussion between Plunker and I and H20. Very different opinions on a very touchy subject ... but if it remains respectful of one another's views, it will remain open.

one other thing as well Bob... there had not been a different viewpoint raised since about page 5...

pretty much everything after that was nothing but a reiteration of something said before.

What amazes me is that some people actually email Bob complaining about what someone said to them. And it's not the first time Bob has said something about it.

I just can't understand why grown adults have to cry to Bob because someone called them a fat head or something.

Sheesh, sticks and stones and all that stuff. I can't imagine anything someone could say about me here that would compel me to write to Bob and complain about it. I guess I'm just not a whiner.

I dunno Go, what if I told you Harley's suck...

It figures 4salt...

I'll bet you ride a rice burner...

Friggen Honda wusses!

:p

He does have a Honda

He has a Chevy also so all is forgiven.

Yeah, I had a rice rocket back in the day. Kawasaki KZ400. Chambers, Cafe' handlebars, the whole bit. Sold it when I was 19. Ain't rode with any regularity since.

Been known to put a little Uncle Ben's in my Yamaha outboard too! Probably'll do it even more now with gas prices the way they are and all...

Goharley

I couldn't agree with you more!

Was it the "bad hair day" that get people all excited ????

4salt

We would be in really big trouble if we ever got back into that rubber ban war!

Now those were the days when men were men!

Oh oh, I did it again!

he he he... Judging by that picture you posted you're having one of those every day...

Now if that dont explain a lot... :p




Yo 4salt... I started on a yamaha DT100 (Yeah, the old enduro) top speed 45mph and you always new where I came from... (just follow the trail of blue smoke)

Piper

I have seen you in your posted pictures, and believe me, you know all about those "bad hair days"

Hairlip ... The appropiate folks from the WSC can address your other questions if they wish, they stop in here from time to time.

I have nothing to do with the implementation of the WSC site other than being the purchaser of the domain several years ago.

I have never been a board member of the WSC myself ... don't know what information you saw that said otherwise. The idea for the group did come about on the board and I did attend the initial formative meeting. I have been for some time and still am to this day the regional rep for the group out in this area.

Since you have some concerns, I don't know what good it will do, but for the record, the closing of the thread had nothing at all to do with the WSC.

In earlier threads, you opposed the recent WSR regulation. Because of that, I highly doubt you actually want to become a member of the WSC as you just said. So that leads me to believe you are grasping at straws to do what you can to discredit and attack the WSC.

Secondly, I was NOT at the more open discussion that took place regarding my proposed Fish-In. I did not show up at the meeting until 8 as I had to work at 730 and the discussion regarding the Fish-In was at 7 when the meeting started.

Also, as Rich pointed out, the WSC is not supporting the Fish-In...the discussion from what I understand took place in an informal manner prior to the meeting adjourning. Plus, the discussions I had at the meeting regarding the Fish-In took place at a break and after the meeting with fellow attendees (one on one)...some were WSC members, some were not.

4Salt -

You can talk about my mama teaching my sisters how to walk the streets at night, but don't you ever talk bad about my Harley.



My point was that regardless what you or anyone says, I would never email a mod to complain that someone hurt my feelings.

BTW, Harleys made during the AMF years do kinda suck. But regardless of whether you're riding a Harley or import, the important thing is that you're in the wind.

Hairlip, The WSC has nothing to hide nor does it have concearns to"back pedal". You can go to the website and look over our action/business plan and our mission statement is simply who we are. We do need to update our officers, trustees and reps link as well as a few others, but that's what happens with free help =).

Bob is our Regional Rep for the West Oly Pen area.

I must of missed the inquiry for membership numbers, The WSC has approximately 150 members and many supporters, hence a Coalition. Our membership cuts across the cloth of steelhead fishers and is very diverse geographically. I believe the strength of the organization is it is an educational/learning organization that works very hard to uderstand the issues that are affecting wild steelhead. Also, for the record again, We are not anti-hatchery, but we believe in hatchery reform.

What's interesting, in light of the Forks topic, in the composition part of our mission statement it reads-
"The WSC is comprised of concerned citizens determined to reverse the factors that have negatively impacted wild steelhead, and in so doing, restore healthy and viable populations of wild steelhead to the Pacific Northwest. In so doing, wild salmon and other salmonids will also benefit. The WSC represents conservationists, recreational fishermen, businesses that depend upon wild steelhead for their livelihoods, and citizens who seek to preserve the future of the Pacific Northwest's greatest resource."

I am one of the founding board members and was the VP of Membership, now I am the President of the organization. If you are interested in becoming a member, send me an address and I will be happy to send you a membership packet. I can also email you the recent online version of the adipose (our newsletter) if your intersted.

We also host the bi-annual Steelhead Summits where diverse groups are working together on Pacific NW Steelhead issues. We are not just a WSR organization.

I am one of the few who update the website and the only thing that has been added recently is the WSC Wild Steelhead Facts Sheet, nothing else has been deleted as far as I know.

The Forks fish in disclaimer was to simply clairify to readers that the WSC is not organizing the fish in, but I am sure there will be a few members or supporters there to show support for the Forks community.