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#254980 - 09/22/04 01:13 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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You're a Jacka$$ on this thread ! give it a rest !
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#254981 - 09/22/04 02:28 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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FNP, Please don't refrain from relaying on-the-water reports. They are the best kind of info. Although you might consider holding off on pronouncing a fishery dead before anyone trys it...

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Originally posted by fishNphysician:
Rained all day today and more rain in the forecast everyday this week for Grays Harbor. AARGH! So much for any fish staging in the bay for the Sept 16 opener.
...although your posts gave me extra incentive to boat some fish.

Mr. Freezer,
I have a call in to a buddy that's fishing John's as we speak. I'l let you know here or you-know-where.

Lofty,
The name calling really shows a lot of class. :rolleyes:
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#254982 - 09/22/04 07:15 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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I will be out there in the morning for a few hours, will post when I get home Friday night.

I must admit that Grmps seemed a little "on the raggy" towards FnP. I'm glad he puts the reports uip that he does and glad he was wrong too. \:D

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#254983 - 09/22/04 09:33 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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To set the record straight only:

Quote from Fishin Physician:

'Rained all day today and more rain in the forecast everyday this week for Grays Harbor. AARGH! So much for any fish staging in the bay for the Sept 16 opener.

Silvers are pouring into the Aberdeen Lake hatchery, with credible reports of salmon pushing thru the Chehalis system in good numbers up into Wynoochee and Satsop. No doubt about it, the fish are on the move!

Of course with this year's regs, any salmon swimming upriver past the Chehalis Bridge in Aberdeen has a "get-out-of-jail-free" card thru October 1. By the time those fish are declared harvestable, they'll hardly be fit for cat food.

Talk about forgone harvest opportunity. With all the surplus hatchery salmon produced for this system ( both kings and silvers) it seems kind of silly that fish managers delay the bay opener til mid September and the river opener til October 1.

If we're not gonna be given maximum harvest opportunity on these abundant hatchery stocks, why produce them in the first place?'


Sorry Lofty if you think I am a jacka$$ for simply calling FPN on his claims and providing some real facts....

From what I can see and from the "credible" people I talk to who know how to fish Grays Harbor and have been doing so since opening day, it appears that FPN's assertion that the fish have already gone up the river and therefore WDFW screwed us again with foregone opportunity by opening the fishery too late, is just not correct. No ill will intended, just the facts.

The Grays Harbor Chinook fishery is not predominently of hatchery origin. This year we are lucky that the run size is big enough to support this real quality fishery.

The fishing has been better than average and there are more than plenty of quality fish available and that my "lofty" critic is a fact.
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#254984 - 09/22/04 10:41 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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I don't think FNP was trying to throw any dogs off the hunt--just simply sharing what he observed.

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Has anyone fished on the Hoquiam side?
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#254985 - 09/23/04 10:54 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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Rory Bellows:

Your questions "Has anyone fished on the Hoquiam side"??? Not many, only about a 1000.........the other 2000 are fishing from Johns River......clear to the Bridge.

Have been here since 1968.........have never seen sport fishermen fish that area west of the bridge, except the past few years.

It's crazy that the Chehalis about the bridge isn't open..........sure should be!!!!!!

Hope all enjoy the good weather thur the weekend..........

"Worse day sport fishing, still better than the best day working"
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#254986 - 09/24/04 12:26 AM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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Registered: 08/05/01
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Loc: Bremerton
Yah, its still good. May have to sort through darker Chinook if your looking for really bright fish, but I kept a good size dark male today and it was almost as bright inside as the chromer coho. Anyway we got 3 fish, 26,25 Kings, and 14 lb coho in about five hours of fishing, just could not find that last coho. Not a ton of big fish, only saw one above 40. But enough action to keep plenty of people there. I think the checker had 47 fish for 32 boats when we came in.


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#254987 - 09/24/04 07:32 PM Re: Grays Harbor (Johns River)
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Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3761
Loc: Sheltona Beach
Yea, the fish are there for sure! We were there on tuesday and went 0-5. The problem is the fishery is so popular that others are driving right over your line while you have a fish on! It was great to be able to get out there, but in the fog of war some of the fish were lost due to trying to horse the critters away from the other boats. I was fishing down around the lower end of the south channel and had two guys run right over a fish. Hopefully in '06 I'll be able to get my uncle back out there to catch a big one. But things did not go well for us this time. :rolleyes:
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