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#255286 - 09/16/04 07:22 PM Elliot and Beyond
zzzzpow Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 07/18/04
Posts: 5
Loc: eastside
Hi All,

Going out in the bay tomorrow out of West Seattle. Got the rare weekday off and I'm just itching to get out. How are the silvers doing in the bay? All gone like the sun and warmth? I'll be out by 9 AM. I think tide change is 11:30. Anybody been catching at the Head? Am I too late? Thanks in advance!

ZZZZPOW

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#255287 - 09/16/04 07:39 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
SportJet Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 800
Loc: Twilight Zone
Wind will be the factor but it still beats working.

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#255288 - 09/16/04 07:59 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
zzzzpow Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 07/18/04
Posts: 5
Loc: eastside
I heard that! I have to take full advantage of the time off! I'm a born and bred moocher but I bought a boat with downriggers. If the wind is blowin' I might bust out the stupid fishin' (just my pet name for DR'in). Any suggestions for what to use and how deep? If it works, I may be a convert! :-)

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#255289 - 09/16/04 08:53 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
charr Offline
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Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 652
Loc: bellevue
ZP, When I fish for silvers just outside of the Duwamish Head, I try to stay in atleast 200' of water and fish 60' to 90' deep.. My favorite set up is, a 11" glow in the dark hot spot fasher, 36" of leader with a green spatter back hoochie.
Don't forget the herring teaser.
Glow white hoochie has been really good at times.
Good luck!

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#255290 - 09/16/04 09:22 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
zzzzpow Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 07/18/04
Posts: 5
Loc: eastside
Charr, Thanks for the tips. I have the hoochies and herring. I also bought some coyote spoons in orange tiger and silver and a green, gold and silver. Have you had much luck with spoons? Do you use spoons with a flasher?

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#255291 - 09/17/04 10:02 AM Re: Elliot and Beyond
charr Offline
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Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 652
Loc: bellevue
The only time I use spoons is when I'm Blackmouth fishing. Not saying they wouldn't work though.

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#255292 - 09/17/04 02:56 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
Little Fish Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 955
Loc: Seattle, Washington
zzzspow,

I would do exactly as Charr instructed, but would start with both the splatterback hootchy AND the white glow hootchy. I have found some days they like one, other days its the other. After working Duwamish head (and to the West along the beach), I would scoot North to 4 mile rock, then West Point, then finally Meadow Point (if it comes to that). This year I've hit most my fish deep...55, 65, 80, 90, but in years past shallow did the trick also.

Oh ya...I haven't fished Duwamish for silvers yet this year, but have had success at West Point, Meadow Point and Edmonds. According to my log, last year I hit 3 silvers at Duwamish and 1 at 4-mile on Sept 13, so your timing should be okay.

I'll be out Sunday so if you make it out a report would be greatly appreciated.
JMS

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#255293 - 09/18/04 01:29 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
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Registered: 02/28/02
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Loc: Marine Area 13
Downrigging- stupid fishing ???

Good grief... sounds almost like a challenge \:D
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#255294 - 09/18/04 04:04 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
Armblaster Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/11/02
Posts: 148
Loc: Lynnwood, Wash
ZZZZZZZZpow, Your not going to make a lot of friends making coments like that on this Web site... Good Luck
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#255295 - 09/18/04 04:09 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
SportJet Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 800
Loc: Twilight Zone
Downrigging = stupid fishing.

Hmmmmm.

Lets put the boats side by side on the water and see who catches more fish. A moocher or a troller?

Not that I dont like moochin once in a while but comparing it to runnign the riggers is like eating an apple and saying it taste like watermelon.

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#255296 - 09/18/04 04:11 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
starcraft tom Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 387
Loc: marysville
on the leaders i have been having better luck with shorter leaders for silvers then what you would use for kings. try 12 to 18 inches and troll faster.
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#255297 - 09/18/04 04:44 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
Fuzzybutt Offline
Parr

Registered: 08/20/00
Posts: 73
Loc: Gold Bar, W.A
ZZZZZZPow, the tips you got were good ones, I have fished Area 10 for 25 years, and have detailed log book entries for Sept.
I am a troller (Scotties Rock!) My set-ups are the same year after year, and always work if there are fish around.
I fish a flasher/fly combo, my leaders are 30 inches on the nose. fly colors almost match exactly to the hoothcie colors the others mentioned.
Flasher of choice, full size (11in.) Hotspot, I don't use knock offs only the original Hotspot.
again I agree with the other board memeber hands down, glow/green, or glow/chartruese.
two 5/0 92553S mustads tied 1/4inch apart facing the same direction, I stack glow or pearl beads to get both of those hooks at the back of the fly. you want the fish to get BOTH hooks into his face.
troll fast, 4mph to start, if you aren't getting bit....speed up, don't worry they have no trouble catching it.
I fish predominately out in the shipping channel, 600 feet of water.
look for the rips, and troll the rough side.
I rig a 1 gallon clorox bottle with a 6 oz. lead and 15 feet of line attatched, when you hit a fish, toss this overboard, and then troll large figure eights around the bottle until you limit.
don't forget to retrieve the bottle!
this stays with the water, and the coho school.
A gps does no good as it only marks the spot on the planet and not the moving current, and the moving school of Coho's.
good luck, and post some pictures!

Fuzzy

Silent Approach Jigs
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#255298 - 09/18/04 07:15 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
zzzzpow Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 07/18/04
Posts: 5
Loc: eastside
Thanks for all the positive and HELPFUL advise! The two of us got two silvers around the 5-6 lb range. Not bad for a couple of amatures with DR's. We got 'em on the old Krockadile spoon in silver and red! By the way, no harm intended with my ill advised "stupid fishing" comment. Thanks again!

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#255299 - 09/18/04 07:49 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 1203
Loc: Marine Area 13
ZZZ... No worries.. Thought I'd take "non-serious" poke at ya... Welcome to the board...

Now... King, You name the place and area..
I'll be home mid Oct timeframe. BTW, I like cold beer! :p \:D
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"If you are not scratchin bottom, you ain't fishing deep enough!" -DR

Puget Sound Anglers, Gig Harbor Chapter

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#255300 - 09/18/04 07:58 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
SportJet Offline
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Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 800
Loc: Twilight Zone
Oh Downriggin,

Do you really want too? I love to compete and even though my "downriggers" are manual, they are BAD DOGS brutha'

SO I am more than up to Cold pack. Anytime, anywhere. Although I dont know the south for dippity, I am willing to fish it too.

Lets go buddy! Smokercraft vs. ?

God I love this!

Any other takers?

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#255301 - 09/18/04 09:15 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
Little Fish Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 955
Loc: Seattle, Washington
I'm in providing the timing works. Let me see if I understand the rules. Everyone puts up a sixer/half rack, then we fish all day, compare notes/catches at end of day, winner takes all and/or shares beer with new found friends

PS Thanks for the report.

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#255302 - 09/18/04 10:11 PM Re: Elliot and Beyond
DMW Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/08/02
Posts: 108
Loc: Seattle
Quote:
Originally posted by KingSalmon:
Oh Downriggin,

Do you really want too? I love to compete and even though my "downriggers" are manual, they are BAD DOGS brutha'

SO I am more than up to Cold pack. Anytime, anywhere. Although I dont know the south for dippity, I am willing to fish it too.

Lets go buddy! Smokercraft vs. ?

God I love this!

Any other takers?
Count me in.


Damon
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#255303 - 09/19/04 12:09 AM Re: Elliot and Beyond
Downriggin Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 1203
Loc: Marine Area 13
Oh boy...here we go! Always love a little friendly competetion- sweet!

A Salmonator vs Smokercraft... you have no chance \:D

Stay tuned all...... I am planning another derby in November (or December)- probably Elliott Bay again. Had a fair turn out last year... Tides sucks in Nov. this year.

Beer + 20-year Navy guy = empty \:D wallets.
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"If you are not scratchin bottom, you ain't fishing deep enough!" -DR

Puget Sound Anglers, Gig Harbor Chapter

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#255304 - 09/19/04 09:42 AM Re: Elliot and Beyond
SportJet Offline
Spawner

Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 800
Loc: Twilight Zone
This sounds like an Elliott Bay november thing in the making.

Twisted the back last night while putting the boat away so it is a rest day today but next weekend its back to West point for another silver round.

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#255305 - 09/20/04 11:55 AM Re: Elliot and Beyond
Little Fish Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 955
Loc: Seattle, Washington
Late fall fishing action is good for me. I missed out last year. Hope to make it this year.

King Salmon....bum luck with your back. Sunday out of Shilshoe was awesome. Had our 4 fish limit by 8:30 and hadn't even cracked a beer yet.

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