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#265342 - 02/24/04 12:56 PM Bush Corners bin Laden
Plunker Offline
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February 25, 2004
PAKISTAN has sent helicopter gunships, ground troops and paramilitary forces to its remote northwest frontier provinces to hunt down al-Qa'ida fugitives, and perhaps Osama bin Laden.

The move comes after British reports that bin Laden had been cornered in the area and is likely to be captured or killed in the next few days.

At the same time, in the US, President George W. Bush told a meeting of governors that "we are on the hunt for al-Qa'ida ... we're going pretty good, better than pretty good".

Previously, Pakistan has claimed its military could not operate in the lawless tribal areas where both al-Qa'ida and the deposed Taliban from neighbouring Afghanistan have widespread support.

That claim would make the regime of General Pervez Musharraf one of the only military dictatorships to find a key piece of its own territory beyond its influence. This would be doubly odd given Pakistan's ability to operate beyond its borders.

Its notorious Inter Services Intelligence directorate effectively created the Taliban in Afghanistan, and has financed, supported and at times directed terrorist operations in several parts of the world.

But Pakistan under Musharraf has become the wild card of international politics. No one, but no one, knows which end is being played against which in Pakistani politics.

However, it may be that the two recent assassination attempts against Musharraf have convinced him that he has to destroy al-Qa'ida and the Taliban in his own country or they will destroy him.

There are other intriguing and mysterious dynamics at work. We have just learnt that Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, has sold nuclear weapons technology and materials over many years to Libya, North Korea and Iran. The Pakistanis have claimed Dr Khan did this without government knowledge.

Yet Washington and even New Delhi have more or less accepted this ludicrous explanation at face value, although privately both US and Indian officials scorn it.

Thus, the greatest and most destructive act of nuclear proliferation in the history of the human race has gone largely unprotested, largely unremarked.

The reason Washington and New Delhi have taken this benign attitude is that they believe Musharraf, for all his spectacular history of duplicity and military adventurism, is their best bet in turning Pakistan against terrorism, Islamist extremism and nuclear proliferation.

As a result, right now Musharraf owes Washington big time.

What better way to repay such a debt than by producing bin Laden?

The capture of bin Laden would totally transform the dynamics of the US presidential election.

It would vindicate virtually everything Bush has done since 9/11.

While the intricate conspiracies within conspiracies that constitute Pakistani military politics are beyond external analysis, there has always been a minority view, especially in Indian intelligence, which knows Pakistan better than anyone, that the Pakistanis either have bin Laden in custody or would be able to lay their hands on him if they really wanted to.

At the very least, they're making a new show of trying to help the Americans by fighting the terrorists. At the most, they could be offering a much bigger prize indeed.
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#265343 - 02/24/04 01:01 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Timing is everything!
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#265344 - 02/24/04 01:03 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Bush had him in the White House closet all along. He just let him out so he could chase him across the White House lawn and tackle him in front of the press for the publicity. \:D
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#265345 - 02/24/04 01:20 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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"It would vindicate virtually everything Bush has done since 9/11. "

Where ARE my waders?
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#265346 - 02/24/04 03:15 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
riverdog Offline
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What is the secret plan for the economy...or the environment/fish restoration..?

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#265347 - 02/24/04 03:29 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Dave Vedder Offline
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I wonder if Osama knows where the WMDs are?
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#265348 - 02/24/04 03:30 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Pmartin Offline
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Today is the 24th right??

paki
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#265349 - 02/24/04 03:44 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Quote:
Originally posted by riverdog:
What is the secret plan for the economy...
what rock you been hiding under dude... It is safe to come out now... Clinton is out of office!

:p \:D

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#265350 - 02/24/04 04:05 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Did you invent a time machene? Cause today is the 24th.
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#265351 - 02/24/04 04:08 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Its the twent fifth in Pakistan, brotha.

That pesky international dateline....
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#265352 - 02/24/04 04:09 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fishingjunky15:
Did you invent a time machene? Cause today is the 24th.
I'll bet you didn't invent the dictionary... it's spelled "machine" \:D

It is the 25th in Bagdad

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#265353 - 02/24/04 04:14 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
goharley Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
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Quote:
We have just learnt that Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, has sold nuclear weapons technology and materials over many years to Libya, North Korea and Iran.
Anyone else notice a suspicious, yet significant, country's absence from that list?


Quote:
Yet Washington and even New Delhi have more or less accepted this ludicrous explanation .... The reason Washington and New Delhi have taken this benign attitude is that...
...Pakistan has no oil.


Yes, timing is everything in politics. Rove's got bin Laden in his back pocket just waiting for the right moment. To me, it still goes back to how many American's lives we could have saved, plus the billions of dollars, if we'd remained focused on capturing bin Laden and then concentrated on Iraq with International support.
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#265354 - 02/24/04 04:17 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Pmartin Offline
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Not when you posted it, it was still the 24th


Baghdad, Iraq
Baghdad is the capital of Iraq
The native name of Iraq is Al Iraq

Current time Wednesday, February 25, 2004, at 12:14:28 AM
UTC/GMT Offset Standard time zone: UTC/GMT +3 hours
No daylight saving time at the moment

Daylight Saving Time DST starts on Thursday, April 1, 2004, at 3:00 AM local standard time
DST ends on Friday, October 1, 2004, at 4:00 AM local daylight time

Sun Sunrise at 6:37 AM
Sunset at 5:55 PM

International country code: + 964 (Iraq)
Area code: 1


Latitude: 33° 14' North
Longitude: 44° 22' East

Love the avatar harley! LOL

One question though. When do you suppose the US is finally going to start stealing some oil from Iraq?? I am really getting sick of paying these prices and the US has been over there for just over ten years.

Can't stop laughing about that av
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#265355 - 02/24/04 04:21 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Pitch Pocket Offline
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Registered: 04/10/01
Posts: 144
Loc: Portland, OR
Can you quote the source? API, Reurters, Drudge? I've looked at the news wires and can't find anything about it.
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#265356 - 02/24/04 04:29 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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Posts: 443
Loc: Area 8-1 to 13, WA
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#265357 - 02/24/04 04:38 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
goharley Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
Loc: U.S. Army
Dang, Pmartin, you're all over it.


Sunday I read from a UK paper that the Brits and US had bin Laden cornered in a 100 square mile area and being tracked by satellite. Then yesterday I read from the AP that Pentagon and Whitehouse officials deny the whole thing. So who knows.

I hate sounding like a conspirisist, but I still think Rove's got him, or his body, hid.
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#265358 - 02/24/04 04:50 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Pmartin Offline
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Posts: 769
If they do I sure hope they kept him REAL cold!!!
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#265359 - 02/24/04 05:22 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Dave Vedder Offline
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PMartin: I thought you wanted these posts on the other board? I moved mine at your suggestion. Are you consistent on this?
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#265360 - 02/24/04 05:30 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
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PMartin didn't start the thread Dave, but I'm going to move it.
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#265361 - 02/25/04 03:03 PM Re: Bush Corners bin Laden
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jerry Garcia:
but I'm going to move it.
And yet... the death of another interesting topic...

Damned the NFR board!

\:D

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