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#273580 - 10/22/04 01:43 AM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
Rory Bellows Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 1557
Loc: Third stone from the sun
I've gotten two of those glossy No on I-892 mailers now warning me about the 'Evils of Gambling' (the little kids trike outside the the little store with the neon 'slot machine' sign in the window was a nice touch).

Where were the 'Concerned Moms Against Gambling' commercials and mailers warning us about the evils of gambling then?
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If passed, I-892 would allow non-tribal casinos to compete with the tribes (who pay ZERO in taxes) and will use 35% of the proceeds to lower every home owners property tax in the state of Washington.

If the Tribes had paid taxes on the BILLION + $'s a year they make on the slots this wouldn't be an issue.

If the Tribes had tried in the past to block their OWN gambling expansion--their argument against I-892 would have some crediblity.

The fact is that when they stand to profit, the Tribes are all for gambling and their UN-TAXED monopoly on it--But when they may have to share a piece of the HUGE gambling profit they're now 'Concerned' about gambling expansion.
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The Tribes have so much money to brain wash the masses with mis-leading propaganda like "Concerned Moms Against Gambling' that the initiative may not pass.

I hope enough people look past their slick and mis-leading propaganda and realize that the only thing the Tribes are 'Concerned' about with respect to slot machine gambling is keeping their monopoly on it.


Vote YES on I-892
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#273581 - 10/22/04 03:54 AM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1463
Loc: Olympia, WA
The propaganda put out by the tribes against this initiative is TOTAL HYPOCRISY. When tribes expand their gambling activities, it's a good thing. When nontribal establishments seek to provide similar opportunities for their patrons the same activity becomes frought with peril and unsurmountable problems. This is just an elaboration of the old "your's stinks, mine doesn't" theme, and is reason enough to support I-892.

Passing I-892 will increase competition amongst all casino/gambling establishments. That's good for the consumer. I've never wagered a cent in a WA casino, but I have enjoyed some fine dining at several of them. If competition brings $2.99 steak and eggs to a casino menu, I know where I'll be going for breakfast.

I'll vote "Yes" on I-892 because I think nontribal gaming establishments need help if they are to operate profitably alongside untaxed and unaccountable tribal casinos. I'm betting the tribes can operate leaner; they'll still have all the tax breaks in their favor, even if I-892 passes.

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#273582 - 10/22/04 07:57 AM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
grandpa Offline
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Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 1843
Loc: brier,wa
With so much to gain for the tribal big shots and their handlers from Vegas it is no wonder they spent more on the phony campaign against I-892. Their smear campaign has not sign anywhere near it that it comes form the indian tribes and the indian casinos. All you see are kids and concerned moms and dads....

Oh I almost missed the full page in the flier with a Latino family..mom, dad, a little boy and a little girl..they are READING THE BIBLE and the punch line says: " Protect our families, our future". Like most of the things the tribes do this is driven by greed..the same sick greed they use to control our fisheries. Hard to believe we have been so blind as to let them into the hen house.
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#273583 - 10/22/04 08:02 AM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
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Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 1843
Loc: brier,wa
By the way, by supporting the tribal monopoly on gambling you are also helping with their control of our government. A case in point is the upcoming legislative session. Fishing issues are being formulated right now to be submitted to the legislature. Virtually every legislator will not get involved with any fishing cause that includes anything to do with the tribes or goes against anything the tribe wants. Why? Guess who is spreading big money around Olympia? You got it. The tribes. Where do they get all the millions of dollars? From the gambling in our neighborhoods they supposedly oppose. Tax free millions used to shape the way we live in this state. We pay the taxes yet increasingly we cowtow to the tribes who pay nothing and take, take, take.
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#273584 - 10/22/04 07:36 PM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4022
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
I just found out something very interesting, I live in north marysville, where they want to put the Nascar track, well there is going to be a community forumn, they have invited the community,civic leaders and all the locals for imput. they have also invited the local tribes for their imput and to make sure that it complies with environmental impact statements put into place by the legislature. Now I find out that the Tulalips never did and environmental impact statement for the casino,the wal-mart, home depot, or for the new outlet mall going in less than a mile from my house. Yeah we sure live in a country where we are all created equal...........NOT!
Vote I-92 in and level some of the playing field!........Fishy.
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#273585 - 10/22/04 09:12 PM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
grandpa Offline
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Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 1843
Loc: brier,wa
I know it is an old gripe but ...if the tribes are a sovereign nation and don't have to abide by the rules and laws of our nation then let's put walls around their "nations" and set up border crossings. A toll booth for them to come into our nation to help support all the stuff we give them.
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#273587 - 10/23/04 11:57 AM Re: I-892 Faces Big Money From The Tribes
Somethingsmellsf Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4022
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
I would vote for any legislator in washington state that had the nads big enough to call out the tribes in this state. I will be glad to see that mealy mouthed Grid-Locke gone.....................Fishy.
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NRA Life member

The idea of a middle class life is slowly drifting away as each and every day we realize that our nation is becoming more of a corporatacracy.

I think name-calling is the right way to handle this one/Dan S

We're here from the WDFW and we're here to help--Uhh Ohh!




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