Here is a link to download the entire "Stolen Honor" video for free:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonManifesto/stolenhonor.wmv
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The Requiem! - Nov. 3, 2004:

Vietnam vets - finally, you heroes have come home!

You were spit on. You were called war criminals. You were called baby killers. You served your country and came home to abuse and to be shunned by your countrymen. Many never came home at all.

There were lost limbs, broken lives, broken families, alcoholism, drugs, homelessness, despair, and even suicide. You could not understand why you were so hated. There was no parade welcoming you home. There was nobody to offer you their seat on a full airplane. There was no one wanting to shake your hand and say, "God bless you, soldier. Thank you for what you have done for our country." Never have some of us been so ashamed of our country because of what was done to you.

Yesterday's crushing electoral defeat of Senator John F. Kerry has finally brought some closure. The repudiation of one of the chief architects of bringing together the forces that heaped shame and indignity on you has finally shown the whole world what many of us knew all along. You served honorably. You were heroes.

In desperation, Kerry made a few weak attempts of hinting at apology. It was far too little. It was far too late. It was far too disingenuous. And it angered and lost the support of the most vile of those on the America-hating far left.

For the service Kerry actually gave in Vietnam, he has our gratitude. His refusal to open all the records during the campaign still leaves us wondering what his service really was and what medals he really did earn. Apparently, he is never going to let us know all of the truth.

Three decades ago, Kerry stabbed you in the back. He did it then during demonstrations, public statements, and sworn testimony before Congress in which he lied about fellow comrades in arms. The damage he did was considerable. He caused men to die. Many of you were tortured because you would not repeat his lies and admit to your torturers that you were war criminals.

During the 2004 campaign, Kerry shamelessly did it again. With people like James Carville and Paul Begala, the Hollywood elite, a failed far left network called Air America, newspapers such as the NEW YORK TIMES and LOS ANGELES TIMES, media surrogates such as Chris Matthews, and an endless supply of the slimiest attorneys, he attacked the swift boat vets who actually had the courage to come forward and set the record straight. Kerry's hitmen, and they were that in every sense of the word, tried to blackmail them into silence by creating "Brown Books" that looked into their personal lives to find financial and marital trouble. Seldom in the history of this great nation has a presidential candidate stooped so low as did John Forbes Kerry. To say that he got down in the gutter is to give him credit for too high an elevation. He was below the gutter. He was in the sewer with vermin.

The more we learned about Kerry, the more Americans didn't like him. That is why he tried so hard to suppress UNFIT FOR COMMAND. That is why 527 groups spent over a hundred million dollars trying to do damage to President Bush, why a billionaire spent a fortune, and why a slovenly so-called documentary filmmaker created one of the great works of propaganda ever produced.

The political tsunami finally hit shore and washed away Kerry's campaign when all of America finally learned that Kerry was a hero on both sides of the war. Yes, they saw his place of honor in Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). The communists who killed over 50,000 Americans celebrate Kerry as a hero.

We can never make up for what this country did to you. We can only ask your forgiveness. You were the forgotten heroes. No longer. You have been vindicated. With heavy hearts, open arms, and tears in our eyes, we say to you all, welcome home, heroes. Finally, welcome home.

So they really did air that thing, eh? I remember hearing that the details surrounding its airing were rather shady. To get around the laws providing equal time and chance for rebuttal for candidates, apparently the stations that aired it were forced by their parent company to classify this oh so perfectly timed little piece of campaign propoganda as a news program. I also find it laughable that a 'crushing victory' is forcasted for Bush, when there's no evidence that there will be one by the current polls. It will be a close race, no matter who wins. In fact, isn't Kerry beating Bush at the moment? It's all over in a week, so spare us the victory speeches until AFTER the victory. Crow is not the tastiest of dishes, and at the moment, there's a 50/50 chance that you'll be eating it. Now, imagine if they had done the same, but only it was something like Farenheit 9/11 instead. Bush supporters would be screaming bloody murder. But since it's bashing Kerry, that's OK.

:rolleyes:

I don't care for Kerry, but I like Bush much, much, much x infinity less. I mean, does the nation really need another 4 years of ASHCROFT? We won't have any rights left.

:p

"We won't have any rights left."

LOL. Are you serious? How is your life different today than it was 4-5 years ago in terms of your rights? What specific rights violation do you feel was committed against you and what is the personal impact?

"Now, imagine if they had done the same, but only it was something like Farenheit 9/11 "

I don't have to imagine it. Just flip on the TV to CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MTV etc and the propoganda is flowing freely...

Please specify which rights have been removed. Inquiring minds want to know.

MISSION: IMPLAUSIBLE

Discovered papers:

Hanoi directed Kerry
Recovered Vietnam documents
'smoking gun' researchers claim

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Posted: October 26, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Art Moore
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The first documentary evidence that Vietnamese communists were directly steering John Kerry's antiwar group Vietnam Veterans Against the War has been discovered in a U.S. archive, according to a researcher who spoke with WorldNetDaily.


John Kerry testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971.

One freshly unearthed document, captured by the U.S. from Vietnamese communists in 1971 and later translated, indicates the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese delegations to the Paris peace talks that year were used as the communications link to direct the activities of Kerry and other antiwar activists who attended.

Kerry insists he attended the talks only because he happened to be in France on his honeymoon and maintains he met with both sides. But previously revealed records indicate the future senator made two, and possibly three, trips to Paris to meet with Viet Cong leader Madame Nguyen Thi Binh then promote her plan's demand for U.S. surrender.

Jerome Corsi, a specialist on the Vietnam era, told WND the new discoveries are the "most remarkable documents I've seen in the entire history of the antiwar movement."

"We're not going to say he's an agent for Vietnamese communists, but it's the next thing to it," he said. "Whether he was consciously carrying out their direction or naively doing what they wanted, it amounted to the same thing – he advanced their cause."

Corsi, co-author of the Swift Boat Vets and POWs for Truth best-seller "Unfit for Command," and Scott Swett, who maintains the group's website, have posted a summary of the discovery on the website of Wintersoldier.com.

Corsi says the documents show how the North Vietnamese, the Viet Cong, the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice, the Communist Party of the USA and Kerry's VVAW worked closely together to achieve the Vietnamese communists' primary objective – the defeat of the U.S. in Vietnam.

"I think what we've discovered is a smoking gun," Corsi said. "We knew when we wrote 'Unfit for Command' that Kerry had met with Madame Binh and then promoted her peace plan.

"This document enables us to connect the dots," he emphasized. "We now have evidence Madame Binh was directing the antiwar movement ... and the person who implemented her strategy was John Kerry."

July 22, 1971, Kerry called on President Nixon to accept the plan at a press conference in which he surrounded himself with the families of POWs, a strategy outlined in the first document.

The two documents also connect the dots between the Vietnamese communists and the radical U.S. group People's Coalition for Peace and Justice through the person of Al Hubbard, a coordinating member of PCPJ and the executive director of VVAW while Kerry was its national spokesman.

"Al Hubbard and John Kerry were carrying out the predetermined agenda of the enemy in a coordinated fashion," Corsi said. "It's a level of collaboration that exceeded anything we had imagined."

'Return the medals'

The second document, captured by U.S. military forces in South Vietnam May 12, 1972, urges Vietnamese officials to promote the antiwar activities in the United States.

Significantly, the fifth paragraph makes it clear the Vietnamese communists were using, for propaganda purposes, a protest described as taking place April 19-22, 1971.


Kerry led Vietnam veterans in 1971 medal-toss protest.

This coincides with the well-known "Dewey Canyon III" protest in Washington, D.C., highlighted by Kerry's Senate Foreign Relations testimony charging American soldiers with war crimes.

The document's description of the protest includes the "return the medals" event in which Kerry and other VVAW members threw their war decorations toward the steps of the Capitol.

Why now?

Corsi told WND the documents have been authenticated with "100 percent certainty."

But why were they unearthed now, just one week before the Nov. 2 election?

Corsi insisted the timing was unintentional.

"It's truly one of those accidents of how things develop in research," he said. "We did not spring any surprise, we just found these documents, and even the archivist didn't know they were there."

Swift Boat Vets and POWs for Truth dispatched two researchers to Texas Tech University's Vietnam-era archive in Lubbock, which has more than 2 million documents, to "see if there was anything there," Corsi said.

Many of the documents are in Vietnamese and have not been translated yet.

The two documents were found in boxes containing papers from antiwar activities during 1971-72, but they also turned out to be posted in an Internet database, which enabled further verification, Corsi said.

First document

The first document is a "circular" outlining the Vietnamese regime's strategies to coordinate its propaganda effort with its orchestration of U.S. antiwar group activities.


The spontaneous antiwar movements in the US have received assistance and guidance from the friendly ((VC/NVN)) delegations at the Paris Peace Talks.
The phrases in double parentheses were added by U.S. translators for clarification. "VC" refers to the Viet Cong, while "NVN" is the North Vietnamese government.

Corsi and Swett point out that FBI files show Kerry returned to Paris to meet with the North Vietnamese delegation in August 1971 and planned a third trip in November.

Corsi emphasizes that before the discovery of this document, he and other researchers had no direct evidence that Hanoi actually was directing the antiwar movement to implement the regime's goals, although they assumed it to be the case based on other indications.

In her meeting with Kerry in Paris, Madame Binh instructed him on how he and the VVAW could "serve as Hanoi's surrogates in the United States," Corsi and Swett say. This included advancement of her seven-point peace plan forcing President Nixon to set a date to end the war and withdraw troops.

Hanoi cleverly constructed the plan so that the only barrier to release of American POWs was Nixon's unwillingness to set a withdrawal date.

But as Corsi and Swett emphasize, the plan amounted to a virtual surrender that included payment of reparations and an admission the U.S. was the aggressor in an immoral war against the communists.

The circular underscores the impact of the peace plan on U.S. activists, stating:


"The seven-point peace proposal ((of the SVN Provisional Revolutionary Government)) not only solved problems concerning the release of US prisoners but also motivated the people of all walks of life and even relatives of US pilots detained in NVN to participate in the antiwar movement.
Another section of the circular, again highlighting the interconnectedness of the Vietnamese communists, the U.S. antiwar movement and politics in the U.S. and South Vietnam, says Nixon and South Vietnamese leader Thieu are "very embarrassed because the seven-point peace proposal is supported by the [South Vietnamese] people's ((political struggle)) movement and the antiwar movements in the US. "

Therefore, the circular says, "all local areas, units, and branches must widely disseminate the seven-point peace proposal, step up the people's ((political struggle)) movements both in cities and rural areas, taking advantage of disturbances and dissensions in the enemy's forthcoming (RVN) Congressional and Presidential elections. They must coordinate more successfully with the antiwar movements in the US so as to isolate the Nixon-Thieu clique."

Second document

In addition to tying activities surrounding Kerry's 1971 protest to the direction of Vietnamese communists, the second document reveals the degree to which Hanoi worked with and through the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice.


Of the U.S. antiwar movements, the two most important ones are: The PCPJ ((the People's Committee for Peace and Justice)) and the NPAC ((National Peace Action Committee)). These two movements have gathered much strength and staged many demonstrations. The PCPJ is the most important. It maintains relations with us.
Corsi and Swett note the House Internal Securities Committee in its 1971 Annual Report described the PCPJ as an organization strongly controlled by U.S. communists.


"There is no question but what members of the Communist Party have provided a very strong degree of influence, even a guiding influence, in the evolution and formation of policies of the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice."
Corsi cites recently released FBI surveillance reports that establish a strong link between Kerry, Hubbard, the VVAW, the PCPJ and their trips to Paris to meet with Madame Binh.

Kerry shared the stage with Hubbard – who recruited Kerry into the group – during the Dewey Canyon III protest, and they appeared together on NBC's Meet the Press April 18, 1971. Hubbard's claimed to have been a transport pilot wounded in combat, but the Department of Defense released documents showing he was neither a pilot nor an officer and had never served in Vietnam.

An FBI field surveillance report stamped Nov. 11, 1971, showed Kerry and Hubbard were planning to travel to Paris later that month to engage in talks with Vietnamese communist delegations. Other FBI reports clearly show the Communist Party of the USA was paying for Hubbard's trips to Paris, Corsi notes.

Another FBI report, dated Nov. 24, 1971, gives details of Hubbard's presentation to a VVAW meeting of the Executive and Steering committees in Kansas City, Mo., Nov. 12-15, 1971.

At that meeting, the VVAW considered and then rejected a plan to assassinate several pro-war U.S. Senators. Kerry is listed as present.

The FBI document shows communist coordination in Hubbard's trip to Paris.


[BLACK OUT] advised that Hubbard gave the following information regarding his Paris trip:
Two foreign groups, which are Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) and Peoples Republic Government (PRG) (phonetic), invited representatives of the VVAW, Communist Party USA (CP USA), and a Left Wing group in Paris, to attend meeting of the above inviting groups in Paris. Hubbard advised he was elected to represent the VVAW. An unknown male was invited to represent the CP USA and an unknown individual was elected to represent the Left Wing group from Paris. He advised at the meeting that his trip was financed by CP USA.

Corsi and Swett cite an appeal letter written by Hubbard April 20, 1971, demonstrating the strong coordination between Vietnam Veterans Against the War and People's Coalition for Peace and Justice.

Addressed from the offices of the VVAW in Washington, D.C., the letter asks VVAW members to provide assistance to the PCPJ. It discusses several ways in which the two organizations have worked closely together:


This is an appeal for help for the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. Over the past months the Peoples Coalition has supported the Vietnam Vets Against the War in many ways. The Coalition has made office space available at no charge, and permitted the use of all necessary office equipment such as mimeograph machines, stencil-making machines, folders and typewriters. They have loaned us cars, bullhorns, and public address equipment. Their staff has taken messages for us and joined fraternally in building our progress. Now we can return this support.
Saturday, April 24, the Coalition needs help collecting money and selling buttons at the great march and rally. Collectors and sellers must be energetic and determined. There will be security problems in taking large amounts of money to banks. The Coalition needs people power, hundreds of workers.

I earnestly hope that you will come forward to support our friends in this emergency.

Two days after Hubbard's letter was written, Kerry told Sen. William Fulbright's Foreign Relations Committee that American military in Vietnam were committing war crimes in the manner of Genghis Khan.

The event mentioned in the letter was PCPJ's massive April 24 demonstration in Washington that followed the VVAW's Dewey Canyon III protest.


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Art Moore is a news editor with WorldNetDaily.com.

The re-finance boom must be just about wrapped up... 'cause with all this copy / paste goin' on, it looks like 'ol Rory ain't been brokerin' too many mortgages lately... :p

AM, so you think we actually won the war?? If that is your idea of winning, I'm glad you're not on my 'team'

:p

PP,

You strike me as one who might be familiar with the game of Chess. When Checkmate cannot be achieved, what is the term used to describe the outcome of the game? I think it probably best describes the outcome of the Vietnam war.

Hint: Think bread...

Sometimes you neither win nor lose.

If you call genocide "Negotiated Peace", or a "draw", then I'm even more glad you are not on 'my side'....

Of coarse the govt is going to come up with some 'official' term to describe their actions that make them look good. But abandoning their allies to be decimated at the hands of the enemy is a crappy way to "Negotiate Peace"...

Same thing happened in the first gulf war that happened with the pull out of S vietnam except more people died in S vietnam. The war was one as a part of the cold war with the collapse of the soviet Union. It had nothing to do with the peace settlement.

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FACT:

Over 2 MILLION (2,000,000) Vietnamese and Cambodian men, WOMEN and CHILDREN who longed for freedom and democracy were MURDERED (aka Genocide) by the North Vietnamese Communists and the Khmer Rouge after Hanoi John Kerry and Hanoi Jane Fonda falsely accused the American troops of being, "WAR CRININALS", "RAPISTS" and "BABY KILLERS" and lobbied for the United States to accept the North Vietnamese Communists "7 point plan for peace" and withdrawl forces.


http://www.dithpran.org/killingfields.htm

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BLAME AMERICA FIRST.......Blah..Blah..Blah

As they say, "Whatever gets you through the night"
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If we had applied Aunty M's logic to the WWII, I guess you could say that the Nazi's gained support and strength mostly due to the US led bombings in Europe.

And that far fewer people would have died in WWII if just let well enough alone and let a region (Europe) solve it's own internal disputes.

"since we WERE attacked"

When did the nazis attack us??

We have only been attacked 2 times out of all the wars we have fought. Interesting enough the first action FDR took after Pearl harbor was to attack North Africa not Japan.

Here is a link to download the entire "Stolen Honor" video for free:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonManifesto/stolenhonor.wmv
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Why Kerry Fears "Stolen Honor'

Christopher Ruddy

Thursday, Oct. 21, 2004

John Kerry fears you will see “Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal.”

His campaign has devoted a huge amount of resources – and even risked increasing interest in the documentary – to stop Sinclair Broadcast Group from airing it on television.


Here is a link to download the entire "Stolen Honor" video for free:

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonManifesto/stolenhonor.wmv


Sinclair is a large station group, with 62 stations, but its reach covers only about 25 percent of the U.S. market – a fraction of the almost total reach of the big networks: CBS, ABC, NBC and Fox.

So, what is Kerry so worried about?

After watching the film, you can understand why.

For starters, “Stolen Honor” offers a compelling indictment of John Kerry as a man and as an American. This is powerful stuff. Any reasonable, independent American would likely be swayed by it.

This election could be so close that every vote will count. Kerry has to pay attention to what Sinclair will air in battleground states where it has stations, places like Charleston, W.V.; Cincinnati, Columbus and Dayton, Ohio; Madison and Milwaukee, Wis.; and Pensacola, Tallahassee and Tampa, Fla.

Kerry cannot risk this.

This past summer the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth launched their first TV ad – including fellow vets who criticized Kerry's activities as a naval officer in Vietnam. The ad caused a hubbub and Kerry blew it off.

But then the Swift Boat Vets ran an ad featuring former POWs alleging that Kerry betrayed them and his country with his anti-war activities.

With that charge Kerry's lead over Bush evaporated – and the Swiftees became a national sensation.

The issue of Kerry's Vietnam activities has been a blur in the minds of Americans. All the men in his boat, save one, stand by his account, while almost everyone else who was there says Kerry is a liar.

But what is not a blur is what Kerry did after he returned from Vietnam.

Kerry, as we know, became one of the major leaders of the anti-war movement.

That story has not been fully told – and “Stolen Honor” opens the window for the first time.

Kerry thought that after decades had passed people would forget. He even brazenly tried to play off his Vietnam War experience as the main selling point of his campaign.

But some people have long memories, included the POWs, many who spent over five years in brutal imprisonment that included regular torture.

Kerry was not the cause of their imprisonment, but as 17 of these men aver in “Stolen Honor,” Kerry gave aid to the enemy when he, a decorated war hero, accused American soldiers of having committed war crimes, including burning villages and killing babies.

The POWs remember Kerry because he apparently was oft-quoted by their Vietnam captors.

Kerry had made a name for himself in America for his anti-war activities, and in communist Vietnam he became a national figure. In fact, to this day, Kerry is lionized as a hero in the country's war museum.

Today, this same man is on the doorstep of the White House and trying to gain entrance. He wants to be commander in chief.

But the men who remember him, who have no political ax to grind, do not want us to forget what young John Kerry did.

One is James Warner, a POW who won two Silver Stars. Warner and his family remember Kerry well, because it was Kerry who contacted Warner's family as he was suffering in a Vietnamese prison. Kerry pressed Warner's family to denounce the United States' war effort.

And then there is Steve Pitkin, a 20-year-old veteran in 1971 who is featured in “Stolen Honor.” Pitkin now says Kerry pressured him to make up stories of atrocities when he testified during Kerry's Winter Soldier hearings.

Clearly, Kerry is afraid Americans may see this film and that is why he has ordered his campaign to launch a massive 11th-hour effort to stop this film.

Sinclair was the major target. Since it announced its plan to broadcast the film, Sinclair has been hit with a barrage of negative media attacks. Democrats – 18 senators – demanded the FCC intervene and stop the airing of the program. Kerry's campaign wrote to Sinclair and demanded they not show the program.

Sinclair took other beatings as well. Stock analysts have trashed their stock – costing the company more than $100 million in market value. One of the major law firms of trial attorneys even threatened to launch a major shareholder lawsuit. A coalition of liberal groups began a massive effort to contact Sinclair advertisers to pull their ads.

The gutsy Sinclair is sticking to its guns and will air portions of “Stolen Honor” this Friday. Still, the whole film has yet to be shown to the American people.

As Kerry's team was hitting Sinclair, two frivolous lawsuits suddenly were flung against Carlton Sherwood and his production company, Red, White and Blue.

Kerry's campaign also lashed out when a small movie theater in suburban Philadelphia sought to show the film this past Tuesday night. The Kerry campaign sent an e-mail to local supporters calling them to action. Calls poured into the theater, and legal threats caused the owner to cancel the showing.

When Carlton Sherwood came to the theater anyway to hand out free DVDs to those who came and found a locked door, he was also greeted by pro-Kerry goons who were their to rough up him and his supporters. The police had to be called to clear the area.

Is this the America we know?

As several radio hosts noted to me, Michael Moore's film was shown throughout the country in major theaters. There was no objection from Republicans – despite the fact that it was filled with hate, distortions and outright lies.

But a 43-minute documentary cannot be shown on TV or anywhere.

And the real American heroes who appear in the show and expose the real John Kerry have already become the targets of media assassination.

“Stolen Honor” offers more than insight into John Kerry. The drama that has unfolded around the efforts to show Americans this film offers a picture of how America is changing. We can see from this episode the type of place America will become if John Kerry makes it to the White House.

I wonder about guys like RB and TK, this is a fishing board and these guys never seem to be fishing. They have alot of time to spread all sort of rhetoric and incite arguments with other board members, but have yet to hear of them posting a fishing report, or anything to that nature. If anyone here has seen any of the above, would you please send me in the right direction. Just a thought, this is a fishing board after all...................Fishy.

SSF,

HEy inspector clueless this form is about everything except fishing.

TK, that would be FORUM, but then again I guess that I forgot that when you speak we are all expected to genuflect toward monroe, oh I mean mecca..................
What are you going to do with your days of copying and pasting when your AWOL COWARD is thrown out of the office that he never won?