Any they're not any happier.

DanS,

Very true, even with mom dad and the kids on Prosac and every other happy pill made.

The simple life = happiness.

:D :p

I wonder why so many think making more dough will make them happier. It won't.

Fishing will make them happier.

For the love of money is the root of all evil

LT, I do think super moms are a part of the problem.

KK, You're also annoying and still pretty ill informed. Just about every single mom out there MUST work. Would you want them all to be on welfare instead?

"Just about every single mom out there MUST work. Would you want them all to be on welfare instead?"

No I would like to see them make better decisions to start off. Being a single mom is just as preventable as aids

AM:
I am sure that most every single Mom must work, and no, I don't want them all on welfare. Matter of fact, I think they should do what they feel is right, for themselves, and for their children. I would have them do just that, as I have no interest in telling them what to do with their lives.
This country , in its relentless pursuit of material wealth, and the trappings of so called success, has some serious issues to face. Working Moms, kids in day cares, single parent homes, are all symptoms of a broader problem. What exactly that problem's 'cure' is , I am not sure, but of its existance, I am quite certain.
I do my best to annoy, at times, but I am serious here, and to some, this may be my most annoying post of all. !! :p

KK

KK you should run for gov on that platform

We could even ammend the const. some day so even a liberal could be president and then run you

I hear ya king... but there IS something to be said for taking a couple of 'happy pills' (not Prozac... but some DO start with a P but mostly an O or a V ) and watching a movie by the fire on a rainy night.


You are also right about the simpler life. I was MUCH happier when I didn't have 2 mortgages, a stock portfolio, and an income in the 30% tax bracket...

Ahhh the good 'ol days...

'Liberals for Personal Responsibility'

Two more things that are not mutually exclusive.

KK

Wrong again. Single mothers may be divorced OR widowed, and it may very well NOT be their fault. Although, I bet if your wife were widowed, it WOULD be her fault and I doubt any court would convict her.

Yep it's always smart to treat the exception as the rule.

Aunty M,

Your last post was a beaut. So true. Gotta' love it.

Sorry TK, but you earned it.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

Aunty I am with you. TK that comment you made was one of the most worst comments I have ever seen on this board I will say if I had any respect for you it is gone now. I know you dont care but I believe there is more than me on this board that feels that same way now after that loser comment.

Salmo,

"Wrong again. Single mothers may be divorced OR widowed, and it may very well NOT be their fault"

Your agreement with this statement shows how far men have fallen. Specifically in the NW. So lets add psuedo male to your list . The above statement is clearly the view of the feminist and their apologists.. It's a sexist statement that gives men all the power and women no responsiblity in the choices in their lives and relationships. Plainly that men are evil monsters that victimize women and women are not smart enough and must accept that role in life. Even sadder is the fact that so called enlightened men repeat such BS. Woman have at least 50% of the responsibility for their relationships good or bad. If a woman finds her self a single mom for any reason she has the ability to rise above it and prosper. It's well documented and well studied.

It certainly is and if you had bothered to research it, you'd KNOW you were wrong, but instead, you post dribble and BS hoping to prove a point.

Tell women in shelters it's half their fault that the old man beat them and the kids. Tell women who are widowed, it's half their fault.

I can hear it now....

Yes, it's your fault your husband died in a car wreck, you shouldn't have let him drive!

Or maybe, it's YOUR fault your husband gets drunk and beats you and the kids.

The majority of the time, those women will live in poverty. But hey, I'm sure it's THEIR FAULT. :rolleyes:

So Aunty:

You are trying to tell us that the woman in the shelter doesn't deserve some blame for choosing a bad partner? Some how that seems a little short sighted to me. How many girls out there will only date the bad boy? Seems to me that is the start of the of the road to the shelter.


As far as the research goes why don't one of you post some links supporting your positions. Seems like interesting reading.

Sure. Blame the woman first. :rolleyes:

Tell it to Crystal Brame. Tell it to the mother of the two little girls who were killed in Edmonds this week. I suppose it was the little girls fault their daddy killed them?

The killers were MEN. I can see where you might want to deny that violence against women is almost always caused by a MAN, of which you are one but that's just the way it is. You should be ashamed for defending your gender and showing your ignorance.

It's Thanksgiving and I have a ton of work/cooking to do. I really only need one link to prove my point. YOU do the reading.

U.S. Department of Justice, Office on Violence Against Women.

TK,

Now you’re truly pathetic. Sure, single motherhood is as preventable as AIDS. Wouldn’t we like to see everyone make better decisions to begin with? However, as omnipotent as you act like you believe you are, you already know that the only people who do not make mistakes (TK excepted, no doubt) are those who do nothing.

Living a human life and avoiding all mistakes are mutually exclusive. While it would be nice if more women were more discriminating (to the woe of the inadequate males they befriend), under the best of probable circumstances, some women will make the wrong decision. Some men are good at deceit, and a woman stuck with such a guy makes the “better decision” when she finally decides to leave him. Does such a woman bear the entire burden of fault? It appears that you’re saying she does. If so, that strikes me as pathetic, but not surprising in regards to you.

Each party bears a share of responsibility, but the outcome isn’t necessarily a 50:50 split. Every person controls him or her self only. Even you cannot control the choices others make or the path they choose to follow. Coupled with the fact that people do change, most relationships become something different than they once were. The desired outcome is that they would improve, but that isn’t always the case, and the one partner isn’t necessarily the cause for the choice made by the other, and isn’t able to force the desired path on the other. In those cases, a split is the best outcome, and fault is pretty irrelevant, benefitting neither party.

So if any woman who finds herself a single mom can rise above it and prosper, why don’t you share that recipe - that’s so well studied and documented - with the thousands of people who could no doubt make good use of it?

Usually you’re pretty entertaining as a pompous a$$, but this one was pretty low, even for you. Nonetheless, I hope your turkey turns out perfect and you have a happy Thanksgiving.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.