Sardonicus,

Moderation, twin peaks, supplemental oxygen . . . decisions, decisions, what's a guy to do? Reminds me of one of the funniest remarks I ever heard. It was on the old Barney Miller police TV show, possibly the only time I ever watched it. One of the cops tells the heroin addict in the booking room lock up cell, "you should stop using heroin; you're gonna' die." To which the addict shot back without hesitation, "so are you!" Question then, is moderation over-rated?

Jeff,

No prob.

TK,

I'm impressed by your sensitivity, coming as it does, from the biggest jerk in this forum. But since you've explained yourself as this type of Christian, accept God etc., but are nonetheless imperfect, I understand there's no obligation on your part for being truthful or any other positive attribute. If you always keep your word, good for you, but should keeping it become inconvenient, and given your religious explanations here, I accept that you've have a convenient out for yourself should you need to reneg.

And since my personal life is not on display here for your amusement, you have no way of knowing whether I kept my word or not; you're merely making the assumption that I did not.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

Yeah, TK. When you assume, you make an ass out of you and............well, you. :p

He's not just an a$$hole he's a wholea$$.

It's almost as though he married himself and not another person, isn't it? It takes two, TK. Even though you've been able to force your will on your wife with brow beating and forced "counseling" (16 years worth, your own choosing I'm sure) to get your way. That doesn't mean she will stay with you. In fact, the odds are against you, since your "counseling" admission.

The game isn't over till your dead. Come back and tell us what a successful marriage you had, AFTER that. Otherwise, you're just BLOWING a false horn, like you do about your children who aren't even teenagers yet.

You have a long way to go grasshopper, before you should criticize anyone else.

like I said SG you can call me anything you want but liar ain't one of them. You said you where divorced in another thread so the Kimono is open and we can see it all honey.

Nice try AM. Just call me a name next time it takes up less space on the server and has the same impact on me.

I don't need to do that. I'm not the one who has to have 16 years of marital counseling because I'm inadequate.

Your female behavior towards S g is actually silly girl stuff. You know, the "throw it back in your face" thing you try all the time. How feminine of you.

DanS reminds me of a poodle always running around yapping and nipping at peoples heeels. Stlhd is just a stupid pound mutt. The kind that just barks and barks for no particular reason other than to hear himself.

AM, Ouch you are really hurting me now. However the female thing is to insert oneself into man business by trying to be a mom. You are not all that good at it but still a female none the less and unable to help yourself. Let SG stand on his own two feet and quit being his mom. He started it let him finnish it.

Just a wild guess: Short fat balding pudgy always been picked on and ignored by women guy. The Rush type.

Awwwww. Do poodles make you look like a twit all the time?

You remind me of a girl with sand in her vagina.

Yap yap yap yap! I shall now call you Pierre the French poodle.

Tk: His idol's are men who can't be trusted to tell the truth and/or hypocrits. So adding it all up I'd say anything TK say's is pure BS and he's a closet homo. He's fun to pick on though isn't he?

Well there is an original line calling me a closet Homo. I thought libs liked homo's? Call me a neeegar next time Shiathd don't hold back.

Call me anything you want over your keyboard, Mr. Big Pants.

I'd call you and Rory a name, but you'll start your blubbering and cry enough tears to blow out the rivers you don't fish.

Salmo g is a bit too old to be mothered TK. And he wasn't being mothered. S g isn't the one here who needs stern discipline, you are.

Looks like Dan and stl took care of that already.

from the quick browse of the post I am assuming this one started (loosely) on the subject of religion.

I have always believed that it is not the quantity, or denomination of the religion that matters, it is the quality of the spirituality within the beholder and the [G]ood [O]rderly [D]irection which they follow.

Which road should I take?" she asked the cat.
"Where do you want to get to?" the cat asked helpfully.
"I don't know," said Alice.
"Then," advised the cat, "any road will take you there."

PS Haven’t been to church in years but I know which road I'm on. KRM

I just read somewhere that that is among the top three most quoted books of all time. The bible was another of the three.

>>>“Thank you for pasting the story of the Prodigal Son. It’s the perfect story of lunacy, and the complete justification for irresponsible “Christian” behavior. If I’d read far enough through my Bible as a young boy, I would have stopped then and there at the Prodigal Son and made that my model of personal behavior. The Prodigal Son gets to have his cake (actually someone else’s) and eat it too. I can’t think of a better religious lifestyle than to spend it boozin’, whorin’, and being a general reprobate, and then just shy of my deathbed proclaiming my acceptance of Jesus as personal lord and savior. It just doesn’t get any better than that.

>>>The Prodigal Son, along with the far right wing whacko fundamentalist non-Christian Cult, have done more than anything else ever could to steer me toward my present spiritual soup of semi-Christian, Pagan, Heathen, . . . “


***The Prodigal Son story (Luke 15:11-32) is actually quite beautiful and demonstrates what unconditional love, free from pride, anger, etc is really like…

Christianity is about a REAL change of heart. It is about putting your self pride aside, humbling yourself, admitting your sinfulness. Becoming a Christian is NOT a ‘cure’ for sin in your life. That is still a daily struggle that God is there to help you with. You no longer need to be a slave to your fleshly desires, but are set free through Christ. When you do stumble, instead of ignoring it or justifying it, you admit it, repent, seek forgiveness, and move on. It is a process of becoming spiritually mature.


Luke 15:11-32 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Lost Son
11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.
13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.
17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.
21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.[a]'
22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

{here is where the prideful attitude of Christians and even non-Christians comes in. Some Christians think that since they have been living a Christian life longer than someone else, they are more worthy in some way. For non-Christians, this is how many copout – “look, he lived a wild lifestyle and still got saved – so why should I bother now???”}

25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'
28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'
31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "

TK,

Put your kimono back on and go in your house. I've seen enough, and not only it ain't pretty, it's downright nauseating.

You're still making assumptions. But coming here to be the biggest jerk on the block and seeing if you can p!ss people off must be the most ambitious task you've undertaken. Congratulations on your success at achieving the first of your two objectives.

Phreak,

Take a look at what you wrote:

"Christianity is about a REAL change of heart. It is about putting your self pride aside, humbling yourself, admitting your sinfulness. Becoming a Christian is NOT a ‘cure’ for sin in your life. That is still a daily struggle that God is there to help you with. You no longer need to be a slave to your fleshly desires, but are set free through Christ. When you do stumble, instead of ignoring it or justifying it, you admit it, repent, seek forgiveness, and move on. It is a process of becoming spiritually mature."

Take that story to TK and Rory and tell what you think about their professed piety in this forum contrasted with their behavior. It's Christians like that who I want to distance myself from. Who needs a scourge like them on the planet?

Sincerely,

Salmo g.