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#283398 - 11/09/05 06:04 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
KlausRMinnow Offline
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Being the centerist I am, I wanted to add my 2-cents worth here: How about those Seahawks?

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#283399 - 11/09/05 06:27 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
Theking Offline
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I quit watching the Sea Chickens when Chuck knox left. I ahve tuned into a few game on the radio this season and watched a few qtrs on TV. Looks like they have a great offense but the Defense looks to have a few holes. A guy like Payton manning and his two recievers would tear them appart. Not sure how the Chickens offesne would fair against the Colt defense.
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#283400 - 11/09/05 06:53 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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I'm one of those fans that likes to watch when they are winning I think I have seen more games this year than I had since Patera was coach, seriously. Kind of a love hate thing, I'm a Tampa Bay fan too.

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#283401 - 11/10/05 10:46 AM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
steelieosus Offline
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Boy I got a good laugh out of this thread. Everyone on this board has all of the latest top secret info. These people tell you only what they want you to know. Do any of you know that before the main ground war we were killing Alkida for five months prior. Or that their was a fusaladge of a 747 they were training terrists in. Their may not be any WMD that they WANT YOU TO KNOW OF but saddam did harbor terrists. Don't ask me how I know this, but I do. OH and the seachickins suck lol

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#283402 - 11/10/05 10:51 AM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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"Their may not be any WMD that they WANT YOU TO KNOW OF but saddam did harbor terrists."

R U saying we need to invade every country whose leader is harboring terrorists??? Wow... we're going to need a few MORE good men.


"Topic: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?"

Why talk about THIS exit strategy when there could be so many that actually make sense? Just about ANY exit strategy is better than Cut-n-Run... but I would be happier knowing we have one and that we were following it. But with THIS commander in chief that is not likley to happen.
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#283403 - 11/10/05 11:52 AM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
sardonicus Offline
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Registered: 07/26/05
Posts: 961
Loc: Spokane, Wa.
It's a girlie thing. They all breathe better thru their mouths. Ms Moo you are and will be a butt of commentary until you learn to spell and quit K'sing derriere with the psychobabbling wannabe intellectuals, some of whom never got past 6 grade based on the appearance of their posts.

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#283404 - 11/10/05 11:54 AM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
Theking Offline
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Fishbear give us your exit strategy.
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#283405 - 11/10/05 12:31 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
BW Offline
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OK Chris, leave the Seahawks alone.
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#283406 - 11/10/05 12:53 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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Sarcasticus, THRU is not a word.
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#283408 - 11/10/05 01:16 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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Sard,

And what kind of wannabe are you? Apparently I'm not intellectually endowed enough to figure it out. Could it be that you're like TK, and just want to see if you can p!ss people off. Now that's a passtime for mental midgets, or the mentally disturbed. And what grade are we supposed to think you reached, based on the substance of your posts? I'm estimating that since you used "psychobabbling" you much have at least reached middle school.

Aunty M,

You're being inconsistent here. Rory seldom,if ever, posts anything of substance, yet you give him all kinds of attention. I've tried to engage him a couple times to no avail. Since he began this thread, I'm guilty too. I was ignoring it until just now.

Sincerely,

Salmo g.

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#283410 - 11/10/05 05:04 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
Theking Offline
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Circle jerk time again. AM you are what is known in the porn indusrty as a fluffer. You get the boys all worked up then pass them off to the real women.
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#283411 - 11/10/05 05:18 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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I'll weigh in on this one. Nobody seems to think that going to Afghanistan was a mistake because the country was full of obvious enemy combatants who were actually responsible for 911.

Knowing that we should not have gone to Iraq has no bearing on the fact that I do not think we should (or can) leave at this point in time. Iraq has become a staging area for terrorists; it is drawing foreign terrorists from all over the world to come fight the evil empire (us); Iraq now has more enemy combatants than Afghanistan did and we are killing and capturing far more of them than they are us; cut and run, no way.

There is a strategy in network security called a “honey pot” that operates on a similar paradigm; we put up a sacrificial node (wounded goat) and give it an important name that entices crackers (not the Appalachian type) to try to see what is on it, we then find out the opponents strategy and track them back to their location or spoofed nodes and it works.

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#283412 - 11/10/05 05:26 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
Theking Offline
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That makes too much sense KRM. It's hard to get a conspiracy theory out of that. How does Halliburton,Dick Cheney,big oil profit?
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#283413 - 11/10/05 06:18 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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Nobody ever denied that Saddam was a bad guy; I think if there is any conspiracy it started on an idealistic level, with some of the perpetrators being the Iraqi's who also supplied bad information, including Chalabi. Other than that, the people who sold this war have been pushing the "liberation" of Iraq for over a decade. You can get inside of their minds (a little bit) through their individual philosophies by drilling down into the website at newamericancentury.org and looking for the PDF files.

While I am not particularly fond of Halliburton’s offshore (Cayman subsidiary) dealings with Iran (and a few other things) there remains a simple fact; there are no other companies that can come in and do what they do. Who else could have, maybe Bechtel, but after the big dig in Boston I don't think they are getting many calls from the fed on multi-billion dollar contracts.

What I do know is that people will be analyzing this in war schools fifty years from now just like they do Vietnam and Korea.

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#283414 - 11/10/05 08:52 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
steelieosus Offline
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 170
Loc: Iraq
FishBear the hole idea of my post was to say, You the enlightened's one don't know everything that is going on outside of your news paper and TV. You only know what they want you to. As such a gave an example did you not read the post or were you just looking for a reaction. As for attacking every country that harbors terrists? If the country who is harboring them don't feel the need to do something about it then what do you think? Should we let the take over another two or three more plains?

As for pulling out? Not a chance, we are in to deep now. However I think their is a beter chance of getting out of Iraq in a few more years then their is of Afg.

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#283415 - 11/10/05 10:20 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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You the enlightened's one don't know everything that is going on outside of your news paper and TV. You only know what they want you to.
And how does that make us any different than you?
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#283416 - 11/11/05 01:53 AM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
goharley Offline
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You only know what they want you to.
All depends on your security level and the Flag-level briefings you wish to attend. ;\)
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#283417 - 11/11/05 08:19 AM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
steelieosus Offline
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 170
Loc: Iraq
Dan, what make's it different for me is the fact that I am over here and see it with my own two eye's then I look at the new's and their is nothing reported. How many men have you heard of in the last six months that have died in Afg? I know how many ramp side ceramonies I have attended here and the numbers don't match. Agin I say you only know what they want you to and nothing more.

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#283418 - 11/11/05 12:51 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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Originally posted by steelieosus:
FishBear the hole idea of my post was to say, You the enlightened's one don't know everything that is going on outside of your news paper and TV. You only know what they want you to. As such a gave an example did you not read the post or were you just looking for a reaction. As for attacking every country that harbors terrists? If the country who is harboring them don't feel the need to do something about it then what do you think? Should we let the take over another two or three more plains?

As for pulling out? Not a chance, we are in to deep now. However I think their is a beter chance of getting out of Iraq in a few more years then their is of Afg.
OK, I'll bite as one of the "enlightened ones." I suppose I fall into the category you are trying to frame. I am not there so I do not have your perspective. Granted.

I will not go as far as being someone who knows only what "they" want me to. Yes, I did read the post. Now, I have a question for you...

Suppose that Country X is harboring terrorists. You ask what we should do when we "know" Country X is not doing anything about it. Your implication is that WE should do something about it. Now who is reacting? Whose information are you basing your decision on now? Don't you think you are just getting the info "they" (whoever they are) want you to? Is this not what got us into the Iraq mess in the first?
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#283419 - 11/11/05 04:54 PM Re: So do all you 'enlightened' folks want us to Cut-n-Run from Iraq?
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I think that we should turn the place into
a big glass ashtray and be done with it.

And get our troops the hell out of there.
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