#322912 - 12/03/05 01:15 PM
Re: fish chucking
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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Do they even eat fish or am I just paranoid? Yes they eat fish. And yes you are paranoid. Otters prefer live fish over dead ones, and smaller fish (whitefish, suckers, squaws, trout, smolts and sculpins) are the ones most likely to be consumed. Before "management" came along, much larger escapements provided many more carcasses. It did not attract armies of otters upriver.
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#322913 - 12/03/05 03:44 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3113
Loc: Bothell, Wa
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Could they have been minks?? I know they are starting to pop up all around the Snoho basin since they where "freed" from the mink farm in Sultan a few years ago.
The otters are actually pretty big at about 3' long and 20-25#'s (or more). The minks are not quite half that size. I've only seen the river otters in the mountains, and always in the water, although they could easily survive along the Pilchuck. Probably minks that you saw but I would sure like to think otters have added minks to their diet and have moved in to re-claim thier terratory.
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#322914 - 12/03/05 05:41 PM
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
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There is a family of otters on the Wunoochee. Seen them many times this year, always munching on a dead old fish.
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#322917 - 12/04/05 01:34 AM
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Alevin
Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 10
Loc: Prince Rupert, B.C.
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River Otters are usually present on most coastal river systems, for heavens sake they were here before us and they do have a hankering for fish flesh. But they are the least of our worries.
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#322918 - 12/04/05 01:48 AM
Re: fish chucking
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 1260
Loc: Snohomish County
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Originally posted by rattlefish:
I'm all for bio-diversity but when the army of otters heads for the river [/QB] Rattler - these are river otters, and they inhabit rivers. They have been present on the Pilchuck forever, and hopefully always will be. Chucking dead fish does not attract more otters. Nothing is more fun than watching a family of otters on the river, in my opinion. I'd be more concerned about all the cracker jacks fishing the river for "trout" during the nine months that it's closed......I'm sure we humans kill many more baby native steelhead than a family of river otters. Sit back and enjoy them next time......you will probably even catch more fish. Ike
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#322919 - 12/04/05 10:03 AM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5077
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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Have seen the Wynoochee otter family, also have seen otter "up the Chehalis". They are fun to watch!!!
Two summers ago, fishing pardner caught a steelhead, instead of packing it down river to the next few holes he put it up in the brush. We came back up river about 45 mins. later.....2 otter were in the area.......low and behold, they had eaten part of his fish.
I'd rather see otters in the wild, than many of the other forms of life that I see on many weekends........lol
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#322920 - 12/04/05 10:30 AM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 306
Loc: Belfair, WA
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Are the Otter looking critters I see on the docks and swimming around the Marina "River Otter's"? Look the same. They sure like to crap on the dock.
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#322921 - 12/04/05 03:39 PM
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/19/00
Posts: 188
Loc: Homer, Alaska
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Should also be mentioned that otters usually travel in "families" of 2-5 members, so seeing a group of them attracted to the carcasses doesn't necesarily mean that the dead fish are a big draw to all otters, just that a family found an easy meal.
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#322924 - 12/05/05 12:45 PM
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Returning Adult
Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 324
Loc: olympia
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might as well shut down hactheries by the same logic...otters and mink pound them hatchery ponds and smolts at release when they can..as well as kingfishers and herons...
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