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#338397 - 03/09/07 03:49 PM Twenty questions?
N W Panhandler Offline
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What kind of horns are these. After twenty replies no one gets it, i will post the correct species i think.


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#338428 - 03/09/07 05:07 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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Sika Deer?

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#338431 - 03/09/07 05:14 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: RowVsWade]
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Those are antlers, no? I'll guess Sambar.....

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#338445 - 03/09/07 06:11 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: Brother Bill]
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 Originally Posted By: Brother Bill
Those are antlers, no? I'll guess Sambar.....


That was my second guess.

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#338448 - 03/09/07 06:18 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: Brother Bill]
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Good on you Brother Bill. You are so close that i have to give it to you. These particular deer were introduced to the island of Guam, Marianas Islands back during the spanish days. In other words long ago. The bucks bark like a german sheperd, and can be heard chalenging each other in the night. The does make a call much like our elk, and in fact i have called in the bucks, and elk bulls with a dollar bill. Is called the Philippine deer, also lesser known as Luzon Samber. I collected these from Guam back in the 70s.


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#338455 - 03/09/07 06:27 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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Sounds like that could be a pretty fun hunt, I've seen pictures of some that look a lot like Elk.....did you get to eat any?

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#338460 - 03/09/07 06:40 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: Brother Bill]
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I ate a lot of them, good meat, always tastes good when you work for it, like carrying them up a 500 ft cliff. Used to be able to do that, hunted the tuff stuff and had fun as well. Always did the tenderloins up as kiliquen (raw meat cooked in lemon juice and a little salt) good stuff. also used to hunt mt. LamLam there.
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#338461 - 03/09/07 06:41 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: Brother Bill]
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I ate a lot of them, good meat, always tastes good when you work for it, like carrying them up a 500 ft cliff. Used to be able to do that, hunted the tuff stuff and had fun as well. Always did the tenderloins up as kiliquen (raw meat cooked in lemon juice and a little salt) good stuff. No heat, also used to hunt mt. LamLam there.
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#338498 - 03/09/07 09:24 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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What are the restrictions and licensing like in Guam?
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#338513 - 03/09/07 10:12 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: j 7]
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In the 70s there was an annual season, one deer, buck, doe, or fawn over 40 lbs. Pretty thick jungle hunting, 12 gauge with buckshot was best. Some of those black feral hogs there also, but not much over a hundred pounds for the largest. Avewrage does were about 80 lbs, and bucks at 125 lbs. I have seen them taken over four hundred pounds. I personely passed up shots at two bucks because they were to big for me to carry. Had to take entire carcass, including guts on Anderson Air Force Base. Anderson used to have a rod and gun club, Totamona rod and gun club, and special hunts were held just about monthly for two days. You had a strip of ground, maybe two hund=red yds wide from the road to the top of the cliff. areas were numbered and you drew for the days hunt. Used to carry a small bow just in case i didnt get drawn. Haad to hunt in on a compas course, and try not to step out in front of someone else, tough but it worked mostly. I do not know current anything since i have been offisland since 1977. You might be able to google it up.
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#338528 - 03/09/07 11:07 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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WOW. I have heard of guys passing up bucks because they were to small but never becuase they did not want to carry them. That sounds like my kind of hunting.

Why did you have to take the guts? I would think the feral pigs would have eaten them.
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#338557 - 03/10/07 02:33 AM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: j 7]
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At times there were wild dogs or runnaways out in the jungle. I killed several, doing the deer a favor. As far as not wanting to carry the big ones, it was a matter of climbing almost straight up, I could handle them up to about 150 lbs. We did kill one about 350 lbs on flat ground, about a mile from the truck. We did gut it because we could not carry it more than 20 ft. Killed it at 9 am, and got out to the truck at 6 pm. The ground was almost all sharp volcanic rock. As none of us could carry alone, we cut down a pole and tied it on. Three of us there, and we took turns taking a break. Forgot to tell you that we killed two does also, so had to haul out three deer at once. Carried some forward, and went back and got the other. Made one trip back to the truck for water. The rack on that buck was about twice the size of the deer in the pic, only three points, but very heavy antlers. I was on the island for six years the last time, so i got in some prime hunting time. Also chased and caught blue marlin and yellowfin tuna and others from 16 foot boats on reefs and such as much as twenty miles offshore. Did not want to screw up there as was 40 day float to Mindino in the Philipines.
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#338560 - 03/10/07 03:02 AM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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That is great. Thank you for sharing that. I have heard lots of stories from North America, Europe,Africa, even heard some experiences from New Zeland. I have never heard any hunting stories from the Pacific Island Region.
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#338862 - 03/11/07 07:03 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: j 7]
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Did you ever barbeque them with a nice finedeni sauce?

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#338925 - 03/11/07 11:29 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: CrazyTom]
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I have barbequed some deer meat for sure, but the finidini was put on the meat after cooking, preferably over an efil wood fire, or second choice was tangantangan burned down to coals and then add meat. Great stuff that. Some great chamorro marinades as well, chow.
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#339025 - 03/12/07 07:51 AM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: N W Panhandler]
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I lived there in 78 and 79 when my dad was based there. I have some really good memories of that place.

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#339143 - 03/12/07 03:33 PM Re: Twenty questions? [Re: CrazyTom]
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You just missed me, I left in 1977 and lived on the nav sta. Back in the 60 s I went native and married a gal from there, 5 kids later i still think i did the right thing. Great kids, I did two separate tours of duty there, one for 2 1/2 years and second for 6 years. Between hunting and fishing it was great duty.
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