I would check with McMillan for a thunbhole stock, if that didn't work I would go with a laminate...

Thanx. I'll chect it out.

Oregonian, Thanks for the info, will get started on the fouling and do some research into those stocks, I aint in no hurry so time is not an issue. I have a box of 95 partitions to get rid of so I will start with those, and try that powder, oh I love these projects, as for the 222 I also have alot of new brass to start with before exploring the Ackley option, is there any tips for a new rifle to insure I'am getting the most from it in an accuracy sense? i.e break in the barrel? Also how bout trigger? When is factory not good enough? Again thanks for your input, sorry to here about Hogdaddy,. HT
P.S. I'm kinda fond of junk

There is a Model 700 trigger article online somewhere, I will try to find a link for you, the factory setting is never good enough ! Back in the day Remington owner manuals included trigger adjustment instructions, these days they have a very heavy spring which should be changed out(easy peasy), then you can adjust your own trigger down to 2 lbs, and get rid of the creep, and over travel. After a little massage, your Remington factory triggers can be quite good.


I don't think you need to do anything to a new barrel other than clean it before you start shooting, and clean it whenever it quits shooting accurate groups. I assume you have blued barrels, not stainless, if that is right, then keeping the bore from rusting will be as much of a chore as keeping it clean.

If your rifle is in a factory black plastic stock, then I would replace it.

If your rifle is in a wood stock, then glass bedding it would be the first thing I would do, after adjusting the trigger, then I would install a Leupold scope...then shoot it.

If you run into problems, I will refer you to the guy formerly known as Hog Daddy...

Again thanks!!
Wood stock, blue bbl. Leupold 4x12. Trigger needs some work, It will already shoot .75" 100yd group with factory rounds so I'll keep you posted, shouldn't be too hard to get it better, Thanks HT.

Here is the link to a good article, in fact it should be included with every new model 700....

http://www.snipercountry.com/Articles/RemingtonTriggers.asp


You can only get a certain amount of gain with the factory spring in the trigger, (if the rifle is old then the spring is probably good), but for the last SEVERAL (?) years the trigger springs have been so heavy that you just can't set them very light without encountering safety issues. Midway sells a pack of bulk spring material, Kit No. 69, part #025-069-000, they are 12" long, just cut a piece the same length as the factory spring, make sure the ends are bent in so they don't get into the threads and foul the screw. Use the smallest size spring in the kit, there are two pieces of each size, so one kit is a lifetime supply for you and all your friends, (you will have more friends than you think after they try your trigger)........
An RCBS trigger pull scale is a usefull tool in evaluating your progress, you should at least try your trigger set at 2 lbs, then if it is too light you can set it higher.
Whatever you do, don't by a fancy aftermarket trigger like a Rifle Basix, or Jewell............................you could get addicted.

I just looked at the article again for the first time in a long time, probably should specify, you want to change the trigger weight spring, which is accomplished by removing the trigger weight screw. Actually I recommend taking both the weight screw and the stop screw out, this will let you remove the disconnector (the part that allows the trigger to NOT snap back further as the trigger is tripped), and look at how and why your trigger works...

Sooo, lets talk Ackley. I,ve got the action, gotta be 240 cal in Wa. for deer, what are your suggestions, 6mmAI 243AI? Gimme some insight, also what is going to be the ideal twist and bbl length?? Gonna be huntin the Weyco reprod/clearcuts behind the house, fairly open . Would also like it to hold its own on the prairie, but mostly I wanna hear bullet slap and see red mist! Prefer overall rifle weight on the low side. Did I mention I want it all. HT

Oregonian, you did an admirable job!

hooktender, our group here runs the 243AI and I dig it...but I don't have one yet, nor do I know the optimal twist rate. When I get back to town, I'll ask and pass on whatever info they give.

Thanks Brother Dave, how's the knee ?

I am hesitant to speak on matters that I have learned through other people rather than done myself, but I have heard Hog Daddy comment on the .243 Winchester being a better case design than the 6mm Remington, whether they are Ackley Improved or not...

I think building a .243 Ackley that is heavy enough to watch the bullet impact, yet light enough to call light may be a problem...choosing the right scope would certainly help though. I have a 6x42 Leupold on a Remington Ti .260, it has more room for error as far as eye placement than any other scope I have tried, I think that helps get back on target quickly...

I agree, but I'll ask Ramhumper about the one he bought from The Pimp. It's a sweet 243AI, and I was hooked on it the minute I shot it. If I recall correctly, it does wear a 6x42. It's his Oakie rifle, but I'm clueless as to what that name means....

I've heard HogDaddy trumpet the 243AI over the 6 many times....

Thanks a million guys lookin forward to hearing more, Gonna talk with mcmillan today and on the way to have a cup of coffee with my smith. HT

Lay Em The Way They LEAN

SOOOOO! Does anyone else need or want a 243 AI reamer, can't find anyone to rent one from so I might have to buy it???? HT


Doin the best we can with what we got!!!

I don't know how much reamers cost, but I'm sure there are a lot of gunsmiths out there with them in hand already...

I think I've seen .243 Improved on Pac-Nor's list.

I have a 6.5mm Swede in good condition, all #'s matching and 100% complete except the cleaning kit.

Is it worth sacrificing to turn it into a hunting rifle?

I would look for a used Remington Model 700, preferably with a dented up stock and some rust on the barrel. Every once in a while I find a Model 700 for under $300, but I would pay more than $300 if I was in heat. I don't know what your Swede is, but it would probably get you close to the Remington, if not there.

The 6.5mm Swede is essentially a 8mm Mauser that has been necked down to 6.5mm much the same as the 30-06 was necked down to .270--a favorite among deer hunters because of its flatter trajectory.

Update! stock is on order, 4 months out, barrel on the way, shilen 1/10 twist, length??? blank is 29" the blacktails are packin their bags!!!!!

What are your plans as to how the rifle will balance ?

I have some nose heavy rifles, and now consider getting the balance point right to be of utmost importance..............

Heavy barrel needs heavy stock, long barrels need heavier stock than short barrels, basic I know, but getting it wrong leaves an impression.

Undecided on the balance/ performance deal, lookin for help!
Ordered mcmillan classic, barrel is a #4 shilen contour.