WDFW chose the contractor, they are responsible.
If you as lets say a home builder, and you sub out some work and it gets screwed up, do you tell the people you are building a house for sorry not my fault, even though it was you who subed out the work??? Pretty much the same. WDFW has no watch dog, there is no accountability, because they are not even accountable to the people who support there jobs.
Fishtales sorry to hear about your dad, hpe he gets out and is able to hunt.
I have 10 points now that i will not draw this year (what are the odds of getting drawn 2 times in the same year???). But i am realistic and know that there is only 34 permits for about 1200 people in the units i put in for. So someday i will draw, i was just excited to see that it was possibly this year...

We need to see some accountability. And responsibility, maybe some pride in ones job. But i forgot they are govt workers... I do not take that litely, because i am a govt. employee also. But tax payers do not pay my wage...

Big Thule,

I'll also have 10 points for nexts year's draw in at least 3 species. No joy for me in antlerd bull elk in many ,many years, and 5 years for a deer hunt. I'm due as well.

The extension issue was a server issue, and if you were one of the guys who would have gotten screwed out of submitting your application on the last day, you would have been bi-tching about that. The extension was fair. Can you honestly say that the folks who tried to submit their apps on the last day deserve to get screwed out of a chance?

Again, for the third time, they haven't passed the date that they said the results would be out by, July 31st, 2007, and that the results would be available on a specific website. The results you received were on the subcontractor's website, not the WDFW's official website and none of you can say which hunt you were drawn for with any certainty, unless you only put in for a single hunt. As long as they get the results out by 7/31/07, I'm fine by the WDFW, because that is when they said they'd get them out by.

Personally, I'd like the results much earlier, like permits due by Feb 28th, and drawings by March 31st.

Whine, whine, whine. You guys are not acting like 12 year olds, I apologize to 12 year old girls everywhere. Yes, I think you are behaving like a bunch of 2 year olds.

10 points??? Good God! I only have 3 points and I was expecting good things this year.

do the points really matter??

My uncle drew a branched bull tag year before last, so his points reset. Then last year drew a cow tag. Seems to me there is no rhyme or reason to their system.

Dog fish, i am not to worried about it anymore. There were people that were told over the phone what unit and tag they were actually drawn for, byu the olympia office...
And if i did wait untill the last day to submit my choices i would kick my own a$$ because i know what happened last year and they put out many warnings to submit early, because there would be no extension, then what happened??? People flooded the sysytem and messed it up again.
I waited until the multi season permit was was drawn for the second time, no dice so i submitted my apps a couple days before the deadline...
I would love to see the drawing in jan feb march time frame...

But i was told there winter survival study is not done untill late, that is why i drawings are last...

Heck maybe now i will get my desert mule deer hunt...

Just got an email saying the drawing can now be viewed....
Good luck guys!
Dogfish if you get drawn for a moose hunt I'd love to tag along.

I see Salty beat me to the punch.
Let's hear about your draws guys.

Now the servers down! CONSPIRACY I TELL YA!

The site is down, because everyone and there brother is on the site!

Ryan

You gotta be wrong there Elkman. Everyone is conspiring against me. Shhhh!......did you just hear that?

I'm happy...my brother and I both drew a muzzleloader Toutle cow permit, and we applied separately. I had 1 point, and I think my brother had 3. I'm looking forward to that hunt. It'll be a nice change from hunting eastern Washington and only being able to kill spikes. Plus this is a lot closer to home...just think of all the money we'll save on gas.

Andy,

I will wait 30 minutes, and then switch to see if we can get our results.

Ryan

I just called 360 902 2515. The gal told me I was a loser, my wife is a loser, and my nephew who thought he had a big bull tag is a loser too! Oh well at least I can head East and shoot a cow elk starting Aug. 1st. Good luck.

Wow, now we all know the draw is "final", but we can't view it. Is this the same contractor with the poor server issues our the state that can't support the traffice? Anyone know a secret to get a result? Some of you, congratulations, know the results. Is it just persistence on the look up?

Just got my results. No joy on any hunts. 0 for 5. Best of luck on yours. I just kept trying and finally it worked.

Server is overloaded.

Dogfish-

They(WDFW) sent a notice out stating "don't wait for the last minute to put in for your special hunt application". And I can honestly say that if I waited until the last day and didn't get mine submitted I wouldn't have a problem with that. My falut for waiting til the last min. The problem is this has happened for the last 3 F'ing years! Maybe they should get some more server space? I know there has to be something that can be done to fix this year after year problem!

And for the record who gives a [censored] how many times youv'e siad it. If it was just a test they shouldn't have even released the F'ing results, sub-contractor or not! Pull your head out of your ass. You are the only one on this board/topic that is defending the WDFW!

i got the same crappy results that I had the first time around!

just got my results- Archery Elk for Toutle YAAHHHOOOOO!!

I definitely like the results. I tried for 2 hours this morning to get results.Finally gave up and went fishing.Got home and tried again a bit ago.Talk about anticipation.

YeeeeeHaaaaaw!!!!!Took over 10 years but the kid and I drew Margaret Muzzleloader bull tags.Stoked is an understatement.!!!!!

Ive only ever put in for Margaret bull as #1 and Toutle bull as #2 though

Still pissed about how this whole thing was handled.I really hope some heads roll over this.

I also really feel for the guys and gals that though they had drawn but ended up with nothing after the so called TEST RUN

HntnFsh

I agree with Dogfish. The WDFW never posted results and now some people are mad because they didn't get drawn. It's not their fault your luck wasn't good. Not everybody can have a permit, that's the reason for the draw!

No,WDFW never posted the results.
But I have heard of a few people that were told by WDFW people in Olympia that they drew.And What they drew. So yes I think they have a right to bitch!

If not for that and the only info they got was by doing the end around to Outdoor Centrals sight.Then ya I agree to.But thats not the case in a few instances.

HntnFsh