RVW,

Dang!

I'll PM you for your email address and take this offline.

Thanks!

Parker

What I'd really like is a gun that has access to both open sights *and* a low power scope.

First choice would be to put an optic on the target. I'd like to have the open sights as a backup....if the scope failed (for whatever reason).

Can one even get/mount a set of scope rings that mount and sit high enough over the sights on a LA 45-70?

I come from the school of one shot, one kill. Don't really need a lever action. Any good bolt action gun would be fine.

Pretty much if I am not 100% sure I can't kill it with one shot, I won't shoot it.

So when is this bear hunt Parker?
I've given you some crap over the years for "not hunting". You always remind me that you do.
I'd love to see you get a bear and would gladly take a roast!

I shot a bear over bait some years ago. I was in a tree stand. .270 from about 20 yards. It died right on top of that pile of stale Hostess donuts and expired loaves of bread with Aunt Jamima Pancake syrup poured on it. 1 shot. does not really matter what you shoot it with at that range.

Parker - I'd stay away from mounting the scope on see through mounts. What happens is the mounts are high enough to cause you to "stretch" to access the occular lense. This tends to cause you to lift your cheek off of the stock which is not a good way to shoot.

Carry an allen wrench with you in the field and yank the scope off it causes you any trouble. Wiht the right scope you shouldn't have to remove the rear sight.

If you want open sights, go with open sights. If you want a scope, go with a scope. Having it both ways just doesn't work very well.

As far as calibers.....don't forget the .35 Remington.


Elk

Thanks elk. Good advice. Taken.

I have the kind of rings on an old 742 remington 30.06 and i would agree with what elk said...they are tough to get used to.

Thanks to all those that replied and offered to help! I settled on the regular Marlin Guide gun in 45-70. Going straight open sights. Should be picking it up on Friday.

i'm a big fan of adventure sports in edmonds. really sharp guys there who know their stuff. it's just north of aurora village on hwy 99 on the east side of the road. 425.771.3877



willy

Good choice there Parker!

Now...check out the ammo manufactured by the Grizzly Cartridge Company in Rainier, OR. It's some good stuff.

http://www.grizzlycartridge.com/

I've bought a couple guns from High Mountain Hunting Supply in Wenatchee. Yea, it's a 3 hour drive from Seattle, but the owner Kelsey is a great guy to do business with. He will also ship firearms if you're a Washington resident. I did all the paperwork via mail, and he was going to ship to me, but I was going to Wenatchee anyway. He also does a couple WAC shows in Puyallup a year. He just opened a brick and mortar store in Wenatchee a couple weeks ago too. His hours are limited though.
I've bought lots of guns from lots of guys, but this guy is the Les Schwab of gun dealers in my opinion. Unless I can't find what I want elsewhere, I'll go to him.
He lists the 1895 Marlin Guide Rifle on his site http//www.luvtohunt.com at $499 for the blued, and $599 for stainless.

Also check out http://www.garrettcartridges.com

He does .44 mag and 45-70 only, and he does them right.

barret .50 cal

Marlin 45-70 Guide Gun 18" Model 1895G

What a little sweetheart! Yesterday was her first day out on the range and she's a very tight shooter!

Sighted her in at 50 yards. First two shots were tight, inline, but low. After knocking the back sight up a notch, the next two shots fit within my pinky nail dead bulls eye!

Not bad for an open sighted gun, eh?

Since the range had a 18" diagonal steel clanger at 200 yards, I felt it necessary to take two shots at it. Ballistic charts for the 300 grain JHP Remington said the bullet would drop 16.9 inches at 200 yards. Ok. Aim at the lower corner of the clanger...raise up to the top of the clanger....raise half way and squeeze the trigger. 2 shots, 2 kill at 200 yards. Nice!

Final 2 shots were at 50 feet - the realistic range that I'll be hunting. I could and pretty much did hit a flees arse at 50'.

I've always been good at shooting and have never questioned my shooting abilities, but what a neat little rifle!

The open sights are a bit rough and restrict your total viewing area, but past that, I love the new gun. It's flat out gonna be lethal at anything I shoot at. Knowing that I can still hit a lethal target at 200 yards on open sights is a bonus. 50 yards on in is just flat out dead.

Thanks for all the recommendations everyone!

Glad to hear that you like it. My father-in-law likes his a well.

I just got my new .458 caliber upper for my AR-15. Similar ballistics to your .45-70, but in a gas operated semi-automatic configuration. The sight is a red-dot scope with no magnification. Shoots nice tight groups.


Here is a .45-70, .458 SOCOM, .223, and a .44 Mag for comparison.


And how they fill out a magazine.


A 10 round AR mag hold 4 .458 rounds, and a 20 rounder holds 6.

Ok, that is cool.

Do you reload your own 45/70? If so, I can bring you the brass before the next SRC. I'm not going to use it.

Parker,

I'll always take the brass.