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#373040 - 09/06/07 10:36 PM Name that friquin bird
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Ok I have some chickens. Despite what some may think chickens are ok.

Well, Last week this little bird of prey killed one of my chickens. It was a young chicken about 3 months old not very large in other words.

Well the other day I lost a rhode Island red, Full grow chicken weights about 5-6 lbs. The bird that got it is small about 20 inches tall. This little bird eats the prey where it kills it. Its all the breast meat, intestines.

Dosen't attack in a dive but stalks its prey, cornered the red under a rhodie. Bird of prey was sitting in the rhodie while the chicken cowered under the plant basically waiting to die.
The first time I chased the friquin thing away but it came back.

Anyway here is a bad picture anyone know what it is?


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#373043 - 09/06/07 10:45 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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It looks like a hawk or possibly a falcon. As to the sub species it is hard to tell from the picture. I will call my bird brained buddy and ask for his opinion.-TBJ
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#373044 - 09/06/07 10:47 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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cant tell by the pic do you think its a hawk naah .shoot the dam thing
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#373045 - 09/06/07 10:54 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: r2fishn]
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#373046 - 09/06/07 10:56 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: r2fishn]
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I think its a coopers hawk or a sharp shinned hawk. But I am not a bird watcher. I bought the Field Guide to Birds of North America. Many years ago being in the outdoors alot it pretty amazing all the birds you will see. I am on the water about 200 days a year. So I have see alot of the sea birds that inhabiate the state.

I would not shoot the dam thing its just doing its thing surviving. I will just keep the chickens in their inclosed run for a couple weeks. The bird will leave when there are no more easy pickings.
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#373047 - 09/06/07 11:02 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: John Lee Hookum]
Jason Y Offline
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 Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum
Red Tail Hawk


Tail feathers are wrong based on the book I have.

Also its behavior is odd. It flies low beneath the limbs about 20 feet off the ground. Rather than soar it seems to stalk its prey from a low limb of a tree.
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#373054 - 09/06/07 11:30 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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I think it's a Merlin.

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#373060 - 09/06/07 11:57 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: RowVsWade]
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 Originally Posted By: RowVsWade
I think it's a Merlin.

RVW


Thats a real possibility. But they are pretty small. Like 12 inches tall. The way it stalked its prey was interesting, chickens are not very smart. The chicken was clucking for like 20 min, in the blackberries at my neighbors. I walked over and threw some gravel at the sound. The little bird of prey flew out of the bushes from about 2 feet above the ground. Basically the chicken was sitting there waiting to die. If I haden't come along I would have lost 3 birds.

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#373062 - 09/06/07 11:59 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: RowVsWade]
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It might be a Coopers hawk. I Watched them kill Doves in my back yard in Gig Harbor all the time.
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#373064 - 09/07/07 12:08 AM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: RowVsWade]
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It is a Cooper's Hawk. Probably spends half his time at your house picking off chickens and the other half at mine eating my fat doves. Have to weed out the gene pool somehow.
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#373077 - 09/07/07 12:58 AM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Hatch]
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I have a copy of Birds of the Puget Sound Region by Bob Morse which has some good colored photos. It could be a Cooper's or a Sharp-shinned which the book says are almost identical. The Sharp-shinned has "long, matchstick-thin yellow legs" & "long, square-tipped tail". The Cooper has "long, yellow, pencil-sized legs, longbroadly-banded tail".
So, I guess you need to catch it and check to see if the legs are matchstick-thin or pencil-thin. Good Luck.
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#373092 - 09/07/07 02:14 AM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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#373100 - 09/07/07 07:42 AM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Blades™]
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It's a chickenhawk


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#373117 - 09/07/07 11:03 AM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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#373119 - 09/07/07 11:19 AM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Sol]
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I come in to work this morning and open up PP only to see the infamaous blinking envelope. Here is the PM that tunaklr sent me, as he lives a few houses down from "my" house that I had to move out of.

"So I get a call last night form my wife. Seems your wife comes by so the girls can play.The dam bird flys from you wife up into a cedar tree. This cedar tree is across the road from me. The bird is up about 20 feet.

At this point I am in Silverdale buying a new cell phone. My spouse broke mine in half about 3 weeks ago so I had been using hers.

Anyway I drive home and there is the white suburban parked in the weeds across the road. With a fricken step stool on top. Seems that someone had been standing on top of the step stool with a long handled net thingie trying to catch the bird.

Anyway we ended up getting the bird out of tree one, it flew over to tree two. Still about 20 feet up in the air. We tossed a basketball up at it. Now the bird flies down the road and straight into the window glass on the front of the house. Fell to the ground as if it was dead. But allas its still alive.

Now the whole ordeal kind of stressed me out. 4 little kids 2 moms one dam little bird."


Looks like the bird is your problem, now, bud.

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#373124 - 09/07/07 12:22 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Sol]
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My avatar is a Red Tailed Hawk.

For a while my parents had a Great Horned Owl picking off all of the birds. He'd kill them then celibrate his kill by standing over the dead, bird stretch his wings and raise a racket.


Edited by stlhead (09/07/07 12:42 PM)
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#373142 - 09/07/07 02:08 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: stlhead]
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1st guess is Cooper hawk.
2nd guess is American Kestrel AKA Sparrow hawk
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#373159 - 09/07/07 04:08 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Hatch]
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Coopers hawk.
Here's anopther photo of one. http://www.dunbargardens.com/coopers%20hawk%20perched%20on%20barn.JPG
Coopers hawks and Goshawks get my full grown mallard ducks on occasion when the ducks are in the woods roaming outside of their pen. Similar birds are sharp shinned hawks and goshawks.
But i'd bet money you have a hungry Coopers hawk and he knows there food there as he's returning.
Sometimes they are temporary visitors to feeders, sometimes they return, sometimes they are migrtating through. They are everywhere, from cities to parks to dense woods and shorelines.
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#373160 - 09/07/07 04:08 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Sol]
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 Originally Posted By: Sol
I come in to work this morning and open up PP only to see the infamaous blinking envelope. Here is the PM that tunaklr sent me, as he lives a few houses down from "my" house that I had to move out of.

"So I get a call last night form my wife. Seems your wife comes by so the girls can play.The dam bird flys from you wife up into a cedar tree. This cedar tree is across the road from me. The bird is up about 20 feet.

At this point I am in Silverdale buying a new cell phone. My spouse broke mine in half about 3 weeks ago so I had been using hers.

Anyway I drive home and there is the white suburban parked in the weeds across the road. With a fricken step stool on top. Seems that someone had been standing on top of the step stool with a long handled net thingie trying to catch the bird.

Anyway we ended up getting the bird out of tree one, it flew over to tree two. Still about 20 feet up in the air. We tossed a basketball up at it. Now the bird flies down the road and straight into the window glass on the front of the house. Fell to the ground as if it was dead. But allas its still alive.

Now the whole ordeal kind of stressed me out. 4 little kids 2 moms one dam little bird."


Looks like the bird is your problem, now, bud.


Great, now I get two black clouds and another dam bird
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#373163 - 09/07/07 04:16 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: pescadore]
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 Originally Posted By: pescadore
Coopers hawk.
Here's anopther photo of one. http://www.dunbargardens.com/coopers%20hawk%20perched%20on%20barn.JPG
Coopers hawks and Goshawks get my full grown mallard ducks on occasion when the ducks are in the woods roaming outside of their pen. Similar birds are sharp shinned hawks and goshawks.
But i'd bet money you have a hungry Coopers hawk and he knows there food there as he's returning.
Sometimes they are temporary visitors to feeders, sometimes they return, sometimes they are migrtating through. They are everywhere, from cities to parks to dense woods and shorelines.


Thanks , Its funny I have these pigion like birds that are hanging around also. Grey body,blackish grey feathers on the wing, yellow feet yellow beak. And on the back of the head the have a crown like band of white feathers.

After the first kill I was convienced that the pigion like bird was the culprit. I called around and discribed the bird. No luck, then the other day when the hawk came back I was so excited. I was going to take a picture of the chicken killing pigion. I was suprised when it turned out to be a actual hawk like bird.

So last night I saw the pigion. Not sure if it really a pigion. Its not the same as the city pigions. A bit larger and pretty smart.

Jason
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#373165 - 09/07/07 04:33 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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Check out the Band-tail pigeon in your bird book. We have them in our yard. They're local resident in the summer before heading south. We used to hunt them but it's hard find a place to do that now days.
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#373167 - 09/07/07 04:54 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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 Originally Posted By: Chuck E
Check out the Band-tail pigeon in your bird book. We have them in our yard. They're local resident in the summer before heading south. We used to hunt them but it's hard find a place to do that now days.


It looks just like that, but the back of the head is all grey. The one in my book has dark or almost black feathers beaneath the white ring of feathers.

Pretty lame, thinking the pigion ate my chicken. But I was convinced it did. Dam meat eating predatory pigion.


Edited by tunaklr (09/07/07 05:31 PM)
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#373171 - 09/07/07 05:24 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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It's a Chupacabra.
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#373175 - 09/07/07 05:31 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: The Moderator]
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 Originally Posted By: parker
It's a Chubacabra.


Been spending time with the kids?
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#373178 - 09/07/07 05:37 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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"Dam meat eating predatory pigion. "
You better wear safety glasses, a hard hat and carry a big stick when you go outside. You may even want to wear your biggest fishing net over your head. They'll gang up on you the first chance they get. They're partial to getting a big meal all at once. Global warming has made them predators.
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#373181 - 09/07/07 05:42 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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I was telling the story at work, 100% sold on the idea that it really happened. Then the hawk came back.
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#373183 - 09/07/07 05:47 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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 Originally Posted By: Chuck E
You better wear safety glasses, a hard hat and carry a big stick when you go outside. You may even want to wear your biggest fishing net over your head. They'll gang up on you the first chance they get. They're partial to getting a big meal all at once. Global warming has made them predators.


Exactly. Chupacabra. I can tell by the beady glowing red eyes. If that doesn't say "Demon", than I don't know what does!
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#373184 - 09/07/07 05:50 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: The Moderator]
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Did someone just mention "BigStick", if so here we go again, I am sure he could kill the crazy bird thing.

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#373185 - 09/07/07 05:52 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: The Moderator]
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Its no wonder some of you have 5k posts.
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#373187 - 09/07/07 06:24 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Jason Y]
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It's Friday afternoon, I'm a bit hung over, (my little brother drug down to Toadhouse Pizza last night for pizza and Mac and Jacks) and out of ambition to work. Posting drivel is way more stimulating.
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#373189 - 09/07/07 06:30 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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I just worked 10 days, have the next 4 off which will fly by. But gonna keep posting drivel.

Gonna load the kids and dog in the car head to salisberry point in a couple min. Maybe I catch a slipery silver salmon.
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#373191 - 09/07/07 06:42 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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 Originally Posted By: Chuck E
It's Friday afternoon, I'm a bit hung over


Ah. That explains the "fowl" mood.



Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Hair of the Dog, man! Get back on that horse and have another pint!

T-40 minutes until it is BeerThirty for me! Kegger over in Oceanography at 4:30!

Sun, waterfront, bikins, boats, and beer! Life is good at the UW today!

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#373192 - 09/07/07 06:51 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: The Moderator]
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Yea-I most likely will have a pint once I'm outta here. I just don't keep up with my maintenance drinking any more so it doesn't take much to screw up my head the next day. My flipper house is closing next week and I have a few things to do to finish the VA's requirements, so only pint tonight. Next weekend, if the closing happens on time, watch out.
My two surragote nieces will be at UW soon. One a freshman and one a 3rd quarter junior. The younger will probably try to get on the sailing team if she has time.
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#373729 - 09/10/07 07:27 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Chuck E]
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Tunaklr,

Straying back on topic, it sure looks like a Cooper's hawk. Maybe a sharp shinned, but we'd need better photos of the tail feathers to know. Both species are pretty cool hunters.

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#373737 - 09/10/07 07:40 PM Re: Name that friquin bird [Re: Salmo g.]
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 Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Tunaklr,

Straying back on topic, it sure looks like a Cooper's hawk. Maybe a sharp shinned, but we'd need better photos of the tail feathers to know. Both species are pretty cool hunters.

Sg


It was pretty cool, aside from loosing a couple hens. But that dam little hawk was so persitent. And its quary, one of my nice fat layers was so much larger that it.

The little hawk at on point had the chicken cowering under a rock rose that is right in front of my house. About 10 feet from the front door.

Thinking about it I have had other experiences with simalar hawks. But never more that a glance.

Thanks for all the feedback. Its nice to know that there is so much knowledge on here.

Now if it would just come back and take my rooster. I don't want to loose any more hens.

JY
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