Last time I checked, wasn't Iran a "terrorist state" threatening to expand its nuclear prowess??

We don't have to INVADE them now, their president has come to us. ...We even have his tour schedule.

...Aren't we at war against "terrorism"?

Can somebody please arest him?

Unfortunately he has diplomatic immunity. An interesting point though.

Let's compare to our President--

How many countries has he invaded?
What his total world wide civilian death toll?
How many acts of torture on foriegn citizens is his government responsible for?
How many foriegn nationals are being held by his government incommunicado?
How many of his own citizens have been executed under his administration?
How many apartheid regimes does his government support?

Shouldn't point fingers when your dirty laundy has the worst skid-marks on the block.

Hers your pres in action Erie this doesnt count all the terrorist attacks that killed americans that he did NOTHING about..Oh I take that back he bombed an asprin factory!


The Clinton Body Count


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A number of people connected to Bill Clinton have turned up dead.

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Was James McDougal Murdered In A Federal Prison To Silence Him?

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The Botched Ron Brown Investigation
An Interview with AFIP Forensic Photographer Kathleen Janoski
by Wesley Phelan
Vince Foster - Former white House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. Snippets From The Vince Foster Death Investigation
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just as she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
Mary C. Mahoney and Eric Butera

Was this just a robbery gone bad? - See: Starbucks Suspect Faces Host of Charges By Bill Miller Washington Post, August 5, 1999



C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser: Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an aparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living roon with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant - Sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena arkansas airport drug operation. Controversal case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. see: The Train Deaths - plus some comments from a mother of one of the boys about the connection to Bill Clinton..

THE FOLLOWING SEVEN PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

Thats some really old tired Rush Limbaugh B.S

GET OVER IT... The fact that G.W will go down in history as the biggest dumbass ever has nothing to do with Clinton..

I agree with B-Run go fishing or something dude, you are puting way too much attention into beating a dead horse. BTW prepare for the second coming of Bill. This time as Americas first first husband. Hah,hah,hah,hah!

"executing gays" no but he and his Evangelical Christian pals would sure like to.

"He also hasn't executed members of the press that disagree with him"

But he did appoint Colin Powell's son to head the FCC and then turn ownership restrictions of the Media on it's ear so that it could be consolidated, ie controlled, by a few individuals.

Ralph Reed has said openly and publicly that no one in the Christian Coalition's heirarchy has gotten there without pledging to support Execution for Adultry and the end of a secular U.S. gov't and the creation of a Theocratic State.

"There ought to be limits to freedom." --George W. Bush; 5/21/99

Talibans suck wherever you find them. Too bad we have a bunch wearing Prairie Dresses and cheap suits right here in our own back yard.

Oh and Aunty--As far as that keeping your hair covered thing goes? That's something The Christian Right doesn't like to advertise when they are looking to get thier boys elected:

Hummmm... rightys are courting the Amish vote.. now thats pretty goofy right there. How do you bring them dudes into the picture ?? I'm pretty sure they don't approve of G.W any more than I do ( They can not be drafted or sent to war, as they don't believe in violence of any kind )

Let's bet back on topic:

Our administration has slaughtered many innocent women and children in it's attempt to secure OIL in the middle east. (I know a member of the 101st Airborne Rangers who personally drove a Bradly into Bahgdad. He personally told me that he slaughtered many innocent women, children, and animals)

Earlier this year, Iran was considered a "terrorist state" and we (and the UN) were considering taking action...

Rather than kill many more innocent people (like we did in attempt to capture the evil Saddam), why not detain the Iranian President as an Enemy Combatant (like many non-terrorists dissenters have had done to them)?

The dude doesn't believe in the Holocaust...

I saw on the news last night that an agreement was reached whereby Iran would submit to UN inspections of it's Nuclear facilities. I wonder if GW no longer considers Iran part of the axis of evil now that thier president is licking his b*lls?...

Irie: perhaps you misinterperet my sarcasm (i know, sarcasm is hard to detect on a forum). I am in no way implying that our country is not run by a terrorist, or that our government isn't run by war-mongering corporate profiteers.

If Sadam (pre war) had come to visit us and give speeches at our colleges, would we let him? ...how did our increased border security manage to let the PRESIDENT OF A TERRORIST STATE come for a vacation... (well, now I know. He came for a GW suck off fest!)

Before I get too depressed, let me leave you with this quote from Marcus Garvey:


"Most of the isms that plague the world are the direct result of the crude and unprincipled acts of selfish and unworthy representatives of Government inflicted upon innocent people, who, being conscious of their innocence, and cognizant of the injustice done them, resort to measures of their own for justification that generally result in the formation and promotion of new policies, ideas or means for the proper administration of justice to other mortals, and those who suffer like themselves, never fail to appreciate the benefits to be derived and join in to give strength and character to the new adventure."


..."measures of their own". I like the sound of that...

Here we go again!!! how pathetic!!!

Just to ensure accuracy, there are no " 101st Airborne rangers"

There are the 2/25 Ranger battalion of Ft Lewis Washington, and the 1/75 and 3/75 stationed in Georgia ( Forts Stuart and Benning)

All are attached to the 75th Ranger regiment, and have nothing to do with the 101st Airborne Division. I only bring this up as I was a member of the 2/75 at ft Lewis Wa.

...forgive me. He was out of Ft. Lewis.

...really!? Why do YOU think we are in Iraq?? (are you sure it's not "here YOU go again"?)

What hohbomb73 said.

Hold onto your hat timber here it comes...and from a republican no less:

Alan Greenspan - Iraq about oil

http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSL266630320070926

According to the elected 'leader' of our country;

1.) We went in there because Saddam was still making efforts to further their WMD programs. We couldn't just invade, we needed an excuse.

Doesn't anyone still remember Colin Powell in front of the U.N. with pictures of Penske rental trucks that were supposedly mobile chemical weapon labs??? We had to get U.N. approval to invade...

Once we did invade, all of our 'intelligence' turned out to be crap, no WMD's, nothing. Ok, we finally found a handful of shells that still had nerve gas in them that were obviously left over from 20 years prior...but, we didn't find anything that we said was there to obtain permission to go in. Period.

2.) All of the sudden we stop hearing the Bush spout off about the WMD's, it's all about 'freeing a country from tyranny'. ALL of the propoganda is about 'spreading Democracy' and 'liberating an oppressed nation'...

3.) Now we are there to 'stabilize' the region that we 'unstabilized'...

Are we there for the oil? It sure isn't helping my diesel prices...but that's a whole other story in itself.

Don't be sheep, people. You've been lied to so many times in the last 6 years you're getting numb to it.

Have other administration's lied to you? Yep, everyone of them. But it's been a long while since thousands of our sons, daughters, uncles, etc. had to die (and tens of thousands more became physically disabled for the rest of their life)because of it.

I'm betting the village in Texas doesn't even want their idiot back by now...

...hard to miss ONE idiot, when the WHOLE village is FULL of idiots.