#393579 - 12/04/07 06:53 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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River Nutrients
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I would think you would be a bigger proponent of civil rights since women were considered inferior to men, in US, even by some women in US, even today. WTF ARE you rambling about? I never said I agreed with it. I just don't think it's an issue TODAY. Keep in mind, a whole lot of people were against slavery and everything that went along with it. As for the comment that the least of Native American worries was loss of religion, that just tells me one thing, you don’t know anything about Native Americans. At what point did this become some sort of advesarial discussion where you get to decide I don't know what I'm talking about? Perhaps you want to rethink that position? Starving people to death is a TAD worse than not allowing them to practice their religion. It was wrong, but so were many humans at that time. Native Americans brutalized each other far worse than what was done to them by our ancestors. They also killed whites with the same brutality. The Romans invaded England as well as many other European countries and those who did not assimilate to the chosen religion were tortured and killed. They forced their pathetic middle eastern religion on them all. Should I and others whine about THAT? At some point in time, folks need to GET OVER IT, including Native Americans and blacks. And perhaps.... YOU. Try finding a MODERN DAY situation where people are being denied religious freedom in the US.
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#393602 - 12/04/07 10:03 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Spawner
Registered: 09/22/07
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AuntyM, I don't know if the conversation turned adversial when you said that Native Americans weren't considered human or when you said that they suffered worse things then suppression of their beliefs, but which ever, that's when.
99.99999999999% of Native Americans would rather starve than disrepect their ancestors. Native American "religion" does not / did not consist of going to church 1 day a week, it was life. Not a way of life, life. Don't expect me to explain it. But your ancestors understood it well enough to exploit it. So yes AuntyM when it comes to Native Americans you don't know Jack & no, I do not need to rethink that.
I will get "over it" under 3 circumstances: 1. Acknowledge the wrong doing. 2. Make appropriate retribution. 3. Honor all treaties.
Simply really -then yes, I will get over it. As far as African-Americans well, I can't answer that. My best guess in that case - sorry aint gonna do it.
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#393610 - 12/04/07 11:53 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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Registered: 08/22/06
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I know lots about Ntive americans. I learned everything I know from watching Little Big Man.
Beep LOL!!!!
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#393617 - 12/05/07 03:33 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
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River Nutrients
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I will get "over it" under 3 circumstances: 1. Acknowledge the wrong doing. 2. Make appropriate retribution. 3. Honor all treaties.
Welcome to America.... land of victim mentality. I think society's patience is wearing thin with Native American collective whining.
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#393618 - 12/05/07 03:42 AM
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Carcass
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Historically speaking, $hit happens.
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#394152 - 12/06/07 09:53 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Welcome to America? ??????????????????? Hahahah, now that is funny.
I don’t see victimized mentalities. I see the home of the free and land of the brave, where people have liberties.
This is not about Native Americans, African Americans, not about the Holocaust, not about HISTORY. IT IS ABOUT not repeating history. It’s about people deserving to be treated as a human being, with dignity and respect, regardless of race, creed, sex, or religion. That is what it is all about. Until people see that, history WILL repeat itself again and again.
We are writing history right now – and it won’t be erased. Human rights are being violated now. No one should be flippant about that, just as no one should be flippant about what has happened in the past.
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#394162 - 12/06/07 10:31 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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Juvenille at Sea
Registered: 10/07/07
Posts: 170
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hey bwp next time yor near a doc? you may want to get a checkup because i think your clutch is slipping 
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#394164 - 12/06/07 10:42 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Fuzzygrub, I can't decifer your schizophrenic code please a few details. Maybe I need a few drinks to lower the intellect so I can understand you. Are you into torture or something? Sadistic? Turn up your TV or music as you type and eat and drink. But know this young Americans are loosing their lives - NOW. People in Iraq are hearing bombs probably, can't even go out of their house. GET REAL. PS: Girls, girls are fighting for you - remember Jessica Lynch? A young lady is fighting right now - so go on be flippant. Haha isn''t it all so funny to you - BIG JOKE. Good luck with Kucinich, you freak. Or should I say self absorbed? Maybe you have been drinking with AuntyM's cousin Billy Bob a little too much! 
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#394168 - 12/07/07 12:21 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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Registered: 11/26/06
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Loc: Olympia
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Geez. Thanks BWP, for telling me what it's like to be a Native. Without you I don't know what the f*ck I'd do with myself.
I suggest now you should head down to Los Angeles to the Watts district to tell Blacks what it's really like to be second class citizens, and if you manage to survive, head to East L.A. and educate the Mexicans on what it's like to be Mexican. It can be your own lil crusade. I'll be the guy selling popcorn on the sidelines of your demise.
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#394169 - 12/07/07 12:28 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Like I said nothing to do with anything except Human Rights. Do you read before you post? Human rights.
OH Yeah PS: There isn't anything 2nd class about them - in fact, they could probably teach you about class. Good grief - how is it you lack so much here? Do you really care about the color of some ones skin? Are you racist, didn't have you pegged you as prejudice, somehow. My mistake.
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#394171 - 12/07/07 01:31 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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Spawner
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Irie continued......................
No thinking person, no person with a brain is prejudice. (of course they care about it!) Sorry harsh -but true. When your prejudice you just tell how 2nd class you were brought up & how dumb you are.
Edit: I am sorry for being lame and going on and my typo. Sorry Irie, and any one else I have offended.
Edited by blue water pro (12/07/07 06:52 PM) Edit Reason: typo
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#394178 - 12/07/07 05:36 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Spawner
Registered: 08/22/06
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Loc: allupinyou
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LO.....L??????
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#394179 - 12/07/07 05:36 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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Carcass
Registered: 08/23/06
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Loc: zipper
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bwp, speed kills.
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#394185 - 12/07/07 06:22 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Spawner
Registered: 09/22/07
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Fish4brains, Not as much as prejudice kills. Check your facts.
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#394214 - 12/07/07 09:40 AM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: blue water pro]
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Carcass
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 2416
Loc: zipper
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Fish4brains, Not as much as prejudice kills. Check your facts. speed kills is a factual statement, look up some of the tweaker threads.
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#394257 - 12/07/07 12:28 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
[Re: AuntyM]
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Spawner
Registered: 08/22/06
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[quote=AuntyM]I'm not understanding you BWP. What religion has lost something due to suppression in the US? Government should not be endorsing one faith over another, but they should also not try to "suppress" any religion, as long as it complies with our laws. [quote]
Remember in Devil's Advocate when that dude killed the goat and they got him off on the "freedom of religion " card. I love Al Pacino!!!
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#394262 - 12/07/07 12:56 PM
Re: Oly Port protests
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Carcass
Registered: 11/26/06
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"No thinking person, no person with a brain cares about prejudice. Sorry harsh -but true. When your prejudice you just tell how low class you were brought up & how dumb you are." Is that all you've brought to this board BWP? Insults? Now looking at the statement above, Should I consult one of the thousands of academic essays written on Socio-ethnic prejudices and their significance in everyday social interaction to prove you not only an uninformed liar and a blowhard but, guessing by your grammar, a semi-literate sociopath who lashes out through the safety of a computer? This thread was originally about protesters. That is until YOU brought first religion and then five posts later race into it. No one here said a damn thing about race or religion until you threw on your pointy little hat, climbed up on you soapbox and started ranting about your creationist and racial horsesh*t. You must be a real piece of work in real life. So far you haven't contributed anything but hate & anger to this board.  
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