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#428057 - 04/11/08 12:28 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: AuntyM]
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 Originally Posted By: AuntyM
I would say the US government has done a pretty good job with the military and better than the private sector. (Halliburton anyone?) Which, of course was supposed to be the feds primary function to begin with.


You are correct there.. Although as the haliburton thing goes, from what I understand (most likely worng) they pick a contractor to do emergency work every year (in cases where the competitive bid process wouldn't work) and choose to go with them. Haliburton just got lucky and did what any GC with an open work ticket would do. To my understanding there are only 3 or 4 GC's in the world big enough to do this work.
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#428058 - 04/11/08 12:38 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Between greed and ethics, we can't trust the job to a for profit industry. Just the lawsuits from families of dead or wounded soldiers would put the price out of reach for us.

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#428059 - 04/11/08 12:50 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: AuntyM]
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Haliburton just got lucky


Yeah.

It was luck.

And the moon is made of cheese.
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#428067 - 04/11/08 02:25 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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 Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
[quote=AuntyM] To my understanding there are only 3 or 4 GC's in the world big enough to do this work.



Just a thought... the military used to be self contained for all operations (food, logistics, etc.) but now relies on outsourcing. What if those supply corporations went bankrupt?
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#428072 - 04/11/08 02:35 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: Mikespike]
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We would yank some ships out of moth balls, dust em off in Bremerton, fuel em up, stick some shore duty sailors aboard and get it taken care of.

Oh wait, that was then and this is now... Well, we'd call the Air Force with those big cargo jets, put in our geedunk order and get it delivered by tomorrow.

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#428075 - 04/11/08 02:39 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: AuntyM]
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I'm thinkin' UPS (no, not United Pot Smokers) - talk about for profit efficiency!
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#428088 - 04/11/08 03:24 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: Mikespike]
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#428096 - 04/11/08 04:14 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: AuntyM]
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OMG.....another thread hijacked by those pesky boneless brown trout!!!

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#428139 - 04/11/08 08:16 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: stlhead]
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I doubt that Health care can ever be conquered at the state level but if any state could do it CA stands a chance based on population. WA tried mandating coverage for all but the ins comps just left our state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0Vn_BppwM

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#428354 - 04/13/08 01:46 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: Mikespike]
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 Originally Posted By: Mikespike
 Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
[quote=AuntyM] To my understanding there are only 3 or 4 GC's in the world big enough to do this work.



Just a thought... the military used to be self contained for all operations (food, logistics, etc.) but now relies on outsourcing. What if those supply corporations went bankrupt?



You can thank Clinton for cutting Military spending .. That being said though, the rebuilding process is usually done by an outside contractor from my limited knowledge.
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#428579 - 04/14/08 02:51 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Shouldn't a blaming Clinton post be over on the worn out sayings thread?

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#428586 - 04/14/08 03:37 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Oh no, I was referring to actual ongoing military operations, not rebuilding. And while all fascists may be considered bigots, not all bigots are fascists ;\)
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#428587 - 04/14/08 03:38 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: stlhead]
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 Originally Posted By: stlhead
Shouldn't a blaming Clinton post be over on the worn out sayings thread?


+1
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#428588 - 04/14/08 03:39 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: stlhead]
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 Originally Posted By: stlhead
Shouldn't a blaming Clinton post be over on the worn out sayings thread?


Ehh, shouldn't saying bush is an Idiot be over there too? People seem to quickly forget how many US troops were over seas under UN control during Clintons time. And all of the military spending that went to those escapades. So in reality Spending under clinton went down slightly, but there were still several costly little "peace keeping" missions going on funded directly by US tax payers.

One of my closes friends was in Bosnia for 2 years under Clinton getting shot at. Not saying its as bad as the current fisco, but its not too great.
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#428669 - 04/14/08 07:54 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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shouldn't saying bush is an Idiot be over there too?


Nope.

Check back in eight years. ;\)
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#428740 - 04/15/08 07:59 AM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: Dan S.]
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"UN control"

Too bad Bush didn't bother to get the world behind him huh?

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#429225 - 04/17/08 05:18 PM Re: Crock of Sh-t! [Re: stlhead]
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Too bad the voices of the critics were silenced by "you must not be a patriot if you don't want to stop Sadaam from coming over here". Does anyone really believe that Iraq had anything to do with 9-11? The highjackers were Saudis'.

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