Wow. With all of the bs dumped on the "fishermen" for shooting the sea lions...isn't this interesting. The sealions were not shot. They died of heatstroke and got bloody fighting with each other!

Google sea lions, bonneville, heatstroke or here is a link:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/121082191574480.xml&coll=7

Oh...and they are saying..."someone" could have pulled the rope to spring the trap...suggesting that fishermen might still be blamed. Later in the article they say that the traps have had the doors close by themselves. Shame on the feds for suggesting that fishermen might still be responsible! Shame on the Oregon state officials. Shame on everyone who was too freakin fast to blame fishermen and who still are looking at "us" for their own mistakes.

When are they gonna learn that fishermen are more in touch with nature...than most people?

One last comment...the news put the story out. Gee thanks. This isn't going to be pasted all over the front page or make prime time news, like happened when you had some "fishermen" to blame. Golly gee...I kinda sound indignant, don't I?

WOW!!! Was there any word on if they were going to start trapping again? MY guess is they are NOT

PETA closed the doors!!!!!!.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

Just a thought

No more trapping/shooting until next year. Sweet, huh? The problem hasn't changed, but there's no need to hurry. Good Grief!

Sounds to me like somebody is just trying to make us all feel better?

Like it could never happen. A boat a make its way to Bonneville in the middle of the night past Homeland security to shoot sea lions.

I can't spell coverup.

If this was the case then how come they don't kill each other (got bloody fighting with each other) down in Astoria sitting on the dock at the East Boat basin?

WTF?

I actually can spell this out. I have guppies in my fishtank, many of them have died. In the wild, guppies(sealions) can escape their foe, same as a guy in a fight.... they can run away. You have aggressive guppies(sealions) in an enclosure and they will fight to the death. It is a theory that is not far fetched to me. But, who knows a dude could have popped off some rounds.... i just don't see the reasoning in covering that up. Would really make no sense seeing as it was already implied that someone shot them.

Conspiracy theory...I Don't buy it. The Assassin lives!!!

Mf

brewer is with brother! MF i think this is work of a true navy seal.

actually this entire bonni sea lion story has turned into a royal joke!!! what ever the story is, reset the traps and try to repeat the the solution. as many time as possible. anyways they will soon migrate out. i am very bummed that the sniper story fell through. based on the fishing boards, it lit up like wild fahr!!! made for some fun posting. wriling up the soft lipped nacyfish was great.

There are some misconceptions. Sea lions can't take heat with all the blubber. They need to get into the water if they get hot. It is very understandable that wild sea lions would panic when caught and overheat.

There were no bullets.

It is what it is. Read the article if you want.

All fishermen have lost as a result of the mismanagment of this issue by the feds and the states involved. The salmon and sturgeon have lost. PETA has won.

We got erroneously blamed, and PETA wins. It just ain't funny. It is sad.

EM your joking right? "We got erroneously blamed,"


can anyone logically explain how the sportsmen got blamed in this fiasco? i have yet to hear one person put the blame on fisherman.

there is some serious tunnel vision going on.

Here ya go big mouth.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/environment/2008-05-06-sea-lions_N.htm

the key wordying here is "suspician" but i see how you guys got your manilla rope panties in a knot over it.

My friend, headlines are not tunnel vision. Fishermen were accused of shooting the sea lions in "headline news". You are right, we weren't accused by one person. We were accused by many: by the feds, by state officials, by the humane society. We were accused in the news papers, on tv, and on the net.

Fishermen suspected after 6 sea lions shot to death in Oregon, a headline

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/environment/2008-05-06-sea-lions_N.htm

My friend, it was healine news. That is anything but tunnel vision.

It took me 30 seconds to find that on google.


30 seconds more, cause I am so slow:

Fishermen suspected in shootings of sea lions...another headline...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24457199/

"Whoever did this knew what he was doing. This was a very bold and open act," Brian Gorman, a spokesman for the National Marine Fisheries Service, said Tuesday (this comment in the body of the story).

The Humane Society of the United States has offered $5,000 for information leading to convictions, and the Tucson-based Animal Defense Council has put up $500. (also in the body of the story)

Some people need to get out and catch a fish around here.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

True enough. But I am capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time, lol.

So what you are saying is that the State trapped them on Friday and were not going to transport them until Monday? Left them in a closed cage all weekend? The first reports were that the trap was left open so they could come and go. Every other trap on the Columbia ( tagging) is left open when not in use.

I still don't buy it. There more to the story

I read somewhere that the traps where known to close accidently. I think this is the part that is left out in all recent publications.

OK I found some:
It's still not known what caused the doors of the cage traps to close. They have been known to shut inadvertently, but Brian Gorman, a spokesman for the fisheries service, said it's unlikely the doors of two cages would accidentally close at the same time

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-sealions15-2008may16,0,6588276.story

He is denying that they closed at the same time? Who said they did. One closed 12 hours after the first!

Flame the Assoc. Press. They wrote the text that was in USA Today and all the other papers, that read:
"The California and Steller sea lions that were killed over the weekend were shot after they had crawled into the steel cages. Investigators think the killers used a boat to navigate the tricky waters, dropped the doors on two of the cages and opened fire from close range, perhaps cleaning up the spent shells to remove any evidence. The carcasses were found Sunday."

What a bunch of crap. Anything for a story.
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Don't forget to thank Brian for his work: ""Whoever did this knew what he was doing. This was a very bold and open act," Brian Gorman, a spokesman for the National Marine Fisheries Service, said Tuesday.

Seems Brian should have said "We did this, and we have no idea what we're doing."

Bottom line: A $2 bullet would have been better all the way around. I'm not insensitive to the animals, but every time this comes around, it costs 1000 times more than it should, when that money could be allocated to starving people, disease, etc. Remember the fake orcas, trap pens, rubber arrows, at the locks 20 years ago?

ned love your reasoning .... why?.... well it makes total sense.

Heatstoke? I don't buy it.
The dams are the problem, consentrating the pinnipeds in one area. The ACoE is just out of touch with the reality of the situation IMHO.