So, current scuttlebutt is that Obama owes back taxes going back four years on one of his residences. Seems he didn't find it important enough to pay his property taxes, and it's finally catching up with him.

Some of his excuses...

1. He owns seven houses, so it's hard to keep track. Sounds like a pretty elitist statement, to me.

2. The house is actually owned by a trust that he set up. Also a lame excuse...if you're going to try and reduce your tax burden by setting up tax shelter trusts to own your many homes, you're still the one ultimately responsible for making sure that the taxes get paid.

3. It slipped his mind, and besides, he hired someone to take care of that kind of stuff, and they're the one who dropped the ball. Nice responsibility shift, but as they say, "The Buck Stops Here", and trying to stuff your responsibilities off on someone else smacks of the type of "plausible deniability" that we've been having for the past eight years...not exactly a glowing recommendation in a possible POTUS.

Do we really want someone who is this irresponsible, and pays attention to detail and his responsibilities running a corner mini-mart, much less the United States of America?

I think the most telling aspects are the elitist statements about "slipping his mind", "seven houses is a lot to remember", and "I hire people to take care of this stuff"...perhaps the allegations of elitism are true.

When the country is in the situation that millions of people are losing their one and only home, and a possible president can't "keep track because he owns seven", how can he possibly relate to the working man, the middle class...you know, most of America?

I think this behavior is reprehensible...am I alone on this one?

Fish on...

Todd

I find his double talk, his associations, his constant lies, his chameleon ability of great concern. Country before party.

bullhead

I've got to give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

$hit happens.

Mf

I'm still voting for Ron Paul.

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+1

smolts

Parr.

3. It slipped his mind, and besides, he hired someone to take care of that kind of stuff, and they're the one who dropped the ball. Nice responsibility shift, but as they say, "The Buck Stops Here", and trying to stuff your responsibilities off on someone else smacks of the type of "plausible deniability" that we've been having for the past eight years...not exactly a glowing recommendation in a possible POTUS. END QUOTE


Ive read and seen other reports that indicate, Obamas style of mgt. leans on trust and he lets you go do the job. Very scary.

Freedom to exercise your vote is important in this country. I can tell you for a fact, that voting for any third party candidates for president will send no messages. A third party candidate has effected every single presidental election since 92.

They cannot win the election because the electoral college is dedicated to winner takes all and most of these candidates dont even get on the ballot in all fifty states. A third party candidate is not going to win 50.1% of the vote in enough states to make a difference.

The only way to change that, is to go to a popular vote and they still wont win. But, in the mean time. The five or six largest states with the largest concentration of big cities and disproportionate landsides {New York} elections are not usually close} So then, you have NY. Penn. OH, FL, TX, CA will decide most of the presidential elections. Gore did get more total votes in 2000, and if you look at a red and blue country map, its simply amazing how few counties democrats have to win. Its like Pierce, king and Snohomish country, which have cost a number of republicans the election, even though they carry the vast majority of the counties. That may work for you personally, but the reverse can be true in other states. For the most part big cities and regulations that induce population density in the cities are front loading the elections. Much like tinkering with a slot machine or a set of dice. Its predictable voting. In 2010 we have another census and democrats will be in charge of that one if they control the house. Some districts are so crooked, they end up in court. Talk about stacking the deck.

It may not seem like such a big deal, but we arent drilling off the coast because a single california congresswoman is in charge of the house and none of you have any say in her re-election. Try and email her. As soon as your zip code is typed in, your letter will be rejected and you cannot send it.

doesn't matter to me what the hell he does, just don't want another 4 years of Bush aka McCain....It couldn't get any worse might as well try.

Its going to get worse, it just depends on what you hate most that news cycle.

Comparing McCain to Bush is a complete waste of time. They are not alike. Lots of people voted for Clinton over Bush and said exactly the same thing. In 76 Carter convinced voters that 4-5 % unemployment and inflation was a disaster and the public was mad at Ford over the pardon for Nixon and a lot of voters were pissed off over Vietnam. And Carter, was a complete disaster. Interest rates went over 20%, Unemployment was very high, Gold was 900 an oz. Our military was a disaster.

Our current situation was started by Mortgage companies, rating companies, and other financial markets that resold risky loans over and over. The cheap money and lax credit standards inflated the growth of the housing market. The fundamentals of the market could not be sustained and the large banks like Citi and Bear Stearns and others, had now lost a business sector and dont have the profits and business to replace it.

Many Large company profits were coming from overseas in new and high growth markets, like china, india, south korea. They have experienced inflation due to massive growth and have been raising interest rates to combat that. The value of their currency goes up and ours is reduced accordingly. Of late, the overseas stock markets are also suffering. China markets have dropped over 50%. They buy a lot of our coal and are drilling oil in cuban waters.

Subsidized Ethanol is a disaster and will only get worse under Obama. Tom Daschel is a lobbyist for the ethanol industry. He use to be Senate Majority leader. His wife was the Boeing lobbyist. I Hope you dont run an outboard. All the debate over alternative energy is focused on government spending. They dont like oil or coal and although wind and solar are great, they are more expensive. Subsidies only create dependent business and energy is going to be in play, if government takes over alternative energy investment. We and the oil companies will pay for it. govt will control that and they will also control the votes that are associates with alternative energy susidies. If businesses are able to invest as they see fit, taxpayers will be better off. I know that I cant mount a wind turbine, solar panel or a nuclear reactor to my truck. I need cheaper gas and democrats dont want to drill for it. Period.

I hope you like canadian health care. They have health care lotteries up there for a shorter waiting period for procedures etc. Those that can afford it, come down here. If you think they care about your actual health, you are wrong. They claim to care about education which is worse than ever and the politicians and the rich guys send their kids to Sidwell Friends in washington DC, while everyone else is stuck with public education. Future leaders are not coming out of public school, they come out of private schools. Look at the colleges where politicians came from. Most of them went to Harvard or Yale. Everthing else is run of the mill.

We will have hospitals for the rich and the equivelant of public schools for hospitals for the rest of us. Medicare doesnt cover everything and so if you cant afford it, you die earlier. Hope your next newborn doesnt run into problems and fall thru the cracks. Your doctor will probably have to join a union, like the nurses do.

A crook? He's a politician........... he'll smoothly attempt to lie his way out of any situation. That's what they do. On both sides of the aisle.

This election is going to be nauseating. And Bush needs to shut his piehole about Iran before it gets really mucked up.

He is the Tefflon politician. Nothing seems to stick to him. The media helps that out and will through the election. Is there anyone here who does not think he is going to win?
Even with this guy on the ballot it will be a dem year. The party tried hard to loose by not nominating Clinton but I am afraid we are still going to be stuck with him. Get use to this type of thing......Wait a minute, I guess we have been seeing it for 16 years. We should be use to it by now huh?.

Sorry...I mis-typed...everywhere that it says "Obama" in my original post, substitute "The McCain's"...they're the ones who decided paying their taxes wasn't important.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/link.php?id=62847

They own too many houses to keep track of the property taxes?

Nope...no elitism there.

McLame = four more years of BushCorp policies...and look what that's got us so far.

Fish on...

Todd

Good one Todd. Obama has one house in Chicago. McCain's wife is a multi-millionaire. They can afford seven houses and someone to look after the details. Sounds like they need a new accountant. Here is the real story
http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/.
Doesn't anybody vet anything these days?. Took me one search on Google to find it.

Sorry Ron Paul has dropped out. You will have to write him in.
http://newsroom.mtv.com/2008/06/13/ron-paul-drops-out-of-presidential-race/

I've lost all faith in the American political system.

Just think of the outcry if this had actually been Obama, rather than the McCains, who felt it unnecessary to pay his property taxes!

Hannity would probably be in the emergency room with a apoplectic seizure that caused a stroke, Rush would be sending out his hired help to get more drugs to keep him coherent during his four hour "Obama didn't pay his taxes!" rampage, and John McCain would be talking about how it was all he ever thought about in that POW camp in Vietnam..."I sure hope my wife is keeping up on our taxes!"...because only non-patriots don't pay their taxes.

Instead, you hear virtually nothing.

Fish on...

Todd

I'm still voting for Ron Paul.

We need to gut and fry bush before we move on to the next guy.

Mingo hit the nail on the head