#442209 - 07/04/08 12:56 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: elkrun]
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Registered: 11/07/03
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Elk - rather than risk breaking the hook why not use a small slip ring to hold it on? SJ- I'm not sure I know what you're asking... But we were talking about crimping down siwash hooks. They come open eyed out of the package and you have to close the eye with pliers before you do anything with them. I rig all my spoons with a split ring and a barrell swivel, then close the siwash on the swivel. It keeps the fish from gaining leverage when they twist and either bending the hook, or ripping it out. I think the salmon university site has a diagram on making that modification. I think SJ meant running the siwash's open eye thru a split ring first, rather than through the swivel. That way, you do not need to close the eye nearly as much, as compared to when running the open eye through a swivel first. Then, attach the swivel to that split ring. And then you'll probably need to attach another split ring to the other end of the swivel. So you have this rig: hook-SR-swivel-SR
Edited by cheapskate (07/04/08 12:58 AM)
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#442255 - 07/04/08 01:36 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Eric]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Napavine,Washington
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Closed mine in a small vise going nice and easy,slowly closing the gap. It was very easy to do and I didn't break any of the 2 dozen or so I did.
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#442330 - 07/05/08 03:43 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: fishNphysician]
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Registered: 08/26/02
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Loc: Sequim
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FnP
OK.
Todd, we'd really like to try some larger sizes in the Siwash lke 6/0 and 7/0. I'll be rigging some hootchies/bucktails with the 3/0 for experimentation in Esperanza Inlet next week.
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#442332 - 07/05/08 04:22 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: fishNphysician]
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Registered: 10/23/06
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Loc: seattle
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i have never lost a fish while using sickle hooks.
Me neither. Of course a bigger sample size than 4 fish (1 fall chinook, 3 coho) might make my case a bit more convincing.  im at 10 or so fish. 1 30lb king and the rest were silvers and a couple humpies. but hey those humpies with them soft mouths stayed on just fine 
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#442333 - 07/05/08 04:29 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Todd]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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keep an eye out for factory barbless sickle hooks next Don't forget my thin wire 2/0 & 3/0's (like the current 1/0 guage wire)  I figure if I pester you long enough maybe it'll actually happen in a couple years! Hey Elkrun......remember me?
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#442460 - 07/06/08 05:23 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: elkrun]
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Registered: 02/19/03
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Loc: lost
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Elk - rather than risk breaking the hook why not use a small slip ring to hold it on? SJ- I'm not sure I know what you're asking... But we were talking about crimping down siwash hooks. They come open eyed out of the package and you have to close the eye with pliers before you do anything with them. I rig all my spoons with a split ring and a barrell swivel, then close the siwash on the swivel. It keeps the fish from gaining leverage when they twist and either bending the hook, or ripping it out. I think the salmon university site has a diagram on making that modification. Totally understand now dude ... makes sense and I think I will try a few. 
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#442461 - 07/06/08 05:30 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: ChuckS]
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Registered: 08/26/02
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Loc: Sequim
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The set-up works well on salmon jigs ilke the PW Dart and similar styles, too. I like a single siwash for my hootchies and bucktails, too. Much easier to release fish off one hook. Set it up so the tail of the hootchie/bucktail just reaches the bend of the hook and run a shorter (16" to 18") leader behind your flasher/dodger so the lure is moving more. The fish has to decide if it is going to hit or not. My hook-up ratio went up quite a ways.
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#448770 - 08/19/08 09:37 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Terrapin]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 7148
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Update: Stay tuned for an increase in our hook lineup...thanks to a lot of the guys on this board who have been using them in the salt, as well as a bunch of other guys who aren't on PP, it looks like we'll be ramping up our selection of Sickle hooks. We're going to get the Sickle Siwash hooks made in a few larger sizes...probably up to 7/0. At least one of the sizes, probably the 5/0, will come in a new "marine guard" finish, which is a rustless finish, one that I think you guys will really like. We'll also start carrying the octopus hooks in sizes up to 5/0, and though right now we don't sell Sickle Octopus hooks except as part of our worm packages, we'll probably start selling them just on their own soon. We're also working on having the barbless alternatives made barbless in the manufacturing especially for all the selective/barbless fisheries that we have around here in the PNW. Thanks again for all the reports and support, guys...besides assuring us that we're on the right track when our ideas work out, it also helps us to improve old designs and develop new ideas as we hear more experiences with our tackle. http://www.rvrfshr.comFish on... Todd
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#448779 - 08/19/08 10:32 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Todd]
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Carcass
Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 2034
Loc: Sequim
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Todd
That is good news....I'll be ready to try them out.
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#448783 - 08/19/08 11:01 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Todd]
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Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 1505
Loc: Kent, WA
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You go'na have 'em in red?
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#448807 - 08/19/08 01:08 PM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Phoenix77]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 7148
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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You go'na have 'em in red? Doubt it...but you never know what the future may hold. Fish on... Todd
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#448879 - 08/20/08 05:28 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Todd]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 4111
Loc: everett
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The sickle octopus would be killer for bobber fishing with fresh dead herring off the beach.
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#448901 - 08/20/08 08:32 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Spawner
Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 682
Loc: Napavine,Washington
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Customer Service= rvrfshr. You guys really listen to the wishes of the fishers.
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#448909 - 08/20/08 09:07 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: laterun]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 7148
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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JG...will I see you out on the island this weekend? If so, I'll have some for you to try out.
Fish on...
Todd
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#448918 - 08/20/08 09:54 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Todd]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 4111
Loc: everett
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Not sure Todd--- Got a shot in my knee yesterday, will see if it works.
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#448922 - 08/20/08 10:02 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 7148
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Just swing by the liquor store and pick up a bottle of painkiller...I think it's spelled P-A-T-R-O-N...  Fish on... Todd
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#448938 - 08/20/08 10:27 AM
Re: Sickle Hook's in the Salt Report!
[Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Spawner
Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 771
Loc: Everett, WA USA
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J.G. what did they put in your knee? Cortisone or RTV? Have you fished off the island yet this year? Looks like Addicted has found a few fish around.
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