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#443521 - 07/13/08 01:13 AM Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz
blue_jay Offline
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Even A. stooper on the Commie News Network ( that's CNN for the moonbats ) dogs on him.

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#443552 - 07/13/08 11:00 AM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: blue_jay]
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Just another politician playing it up for whoever the audience is at that time.
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#443566 - 07/13/08 02:02 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Pugnacious]
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Registered: 01/13/03
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Nah, I'd perer a 3rd Bush term over either of the candidates we have now. Wouldn't that just be great....? A llot of my worries would just disappear.

My business is pretty much based on an average citizen who would like to recarpet their house every few years. Not necessarily buy a second home, or nice yacht, or anything too extravagent. Just something as simple as a small upgrade to their home. If Bush was in office for another term I could just forget about salvaging my company because the average citizen won't have enough money to drive to work much less put new carpet in their house every 10 years or so. Ya, gotta love the direction we're headed right now.


Boot.... You must be so proud of your party. Most of us just wish we were as enlightened as you so that we could see the utopia that is America right now.
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#443568 - 07/13/08 03:25 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: wntrrn]
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#443570 - 07/13/08 03:59 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: TBJ]
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Registered: 10/09/07
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wintern, I really don't think Obammy is going to put more money INTO the pockets of the small businessman nor their customers.

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#443571 - 07/13/08 04:01 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: TBJ]
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Registered: 11/01/06
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Loc: Silverdale Wa
It is not that he sat there for votes that is disturbing. i could get that but his kids sat there rigth beside him adn listened to that crap. Bush Bush Bush I know, nto another term but is this the best we could find for our next Pres......he will be you all know with how bad Bush has made it for the GOP. Sad day for the country......not that the last few years have not been but come on, is this the best we have?
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#443575 - 07/13/08 04:22 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: docspud]
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all i know is bluegay is the biggest tool that frequents this site...everything else is unknown


Edited by summerrun (07/13/08 04:23 PM)
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#443578 - 07/13/08 05:25 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: summerrun]
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MCain's economic plan is being panned as not adding up, literally 'Bush's third term', extend tax cuts, keep the wars going, maybe start another.
No numbers or anything attatched to the 'balanced budget in 4 years' thingamabob he mush-mouthed his way through a while back...... grin...........nobody is discussing McCain'ts plan, because there is no data or assumptions about the economy in it to discuss. Anyone else would have been laughed at for putting forth a 'plan' like this in speech with zero press release of the plan or numbers in the speech to back it up.............at least TRY and make it look like it has substance.

Obama's TAX plan was reviewed in the WSJ, and as for all campaign plans, lacking in specificity as they do, the OP/ED opined that it 'probably' will add up. That involves tax cuts for the middle, and lower class tax payers, and some new exemptions for retiree's on Social Security.

How that will work with his spending plans I don't know..................

But I do know that McCain't.................... wink.......................isn't going to be looking out a new set of windows anytime soon unless he gets it in gear a bit.............

'I'm Bush's Third Term '

'We're Going To Have More Wars'...........'And The Jobs Aren't Coming Back'

Which one do you like ?

McCain't ......................... rofl
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#443582 - 07/13/08 06:21 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Kanektok Kid]
Idahoman Offline
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Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 34
Both guys are limp in my opinion. Neither is the answer. Maybe T. Boone Pickens.

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#443596 - 07/13/08 08:23 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Idahoman]
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Registered: 01/24/07
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Loc: San Francisco,CA
I'm certain you guys and gals have looked at www.johnmccain.com to focus on his campaign proposals. Some of the things I like and some I am unsure of. Ending subsidies for ethanol,sugar quotas and tariff barriers are a plus in my thinking. So is an end to the AMT. No more filling the SPR at high prices. The "holiday" for federal gas taxes is a stupid idea.

Doubling the exemption for dependents is good. Lowering the corporate tax rate (Ireland did it and their economy is booming) is good. Reforming Social Security and Medicare (55 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities) should be tops on everyone's honeydo list. Reforming the tax code is another good idea. Requiring a 60% majority in Congress for any tax increases (much like what is done in many state legislatures) is a no-brainer. No new internet or cell phone taxes...all good.

With the exception of doubling dependent exemptions and SPR halt, none of the McCain proposals will see the light of day in a Democrat controlled Congress. That's too bad. I'm an unapologetic supply-side quasi-conservative and to me, these things make sense. Now if we could get someone that will end the taxing of Social Security benefits ( a tax on a tax) I'll rally 'round that flag too.
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#443602 - 07/13/08 08:54 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: blue_jay]
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Registered: 08/23/06
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Originally Posted By: blue_jay
[Man you guys really want this guy? LOL


It's obvious why you are the way you are BJ..
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#443619 - 07/13/08 10:28 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Hankster]
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 1153
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
The Republicans always find a way to screw up the economy. Never fails. It's called deficit spending. Promise everybody a big tax break. Don't worry we've got enough money to fight two wars. Don't whine about the economy.

McCain more of the same. At least Obama is smart enough to know it.
Deficit double with McCain

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#443628 - 07/14/08 01:02 AM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Steelheadman]
cupo Offline
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Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 861
Loc: north sound
I think Southpark really hits on reality.
From the "Douche and Turd" episode...
"But Stan, don't you know, it's always between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Nearly every election since the beginning of time has been between some douche and some turd. They're the only people who suck up enough to make it that far in politics."

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#443682 - 07/14/08 12:01 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: cupo]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Douche and Turd are making Ross Perot seem a lot more desirable than he looked in the 90s.

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#443727 - 07/14/08 06:19 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Salmo g.]
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I acutally think we have two goood men running. Unfortunatly neither should be president. Obama lacks expirence and McCain is too damn old.

Flame away if you wish, but I am in excellent health, work out regularly and am too damn old to work 14 hour days seven days a week. So is McCain.
I would have voted for him ten years ago. I think he's one of the best men to run recently. Hes' so much better than Bush there is simply no comparison. But he's too damn old!
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#443747 - 07/14/08 08:26 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Here's Governor Sanford, who is on McCain's short list for VP running mate, explaining why McCain's economic plans are so much different than the disastrous plans that BushCorp has implemented...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFEw0TNrUd8

What a jackass, potential running mate to another one...all adding up to Bush Term III, and nothing else.

Fish on...

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#443754 - 07/14/08 08:52 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Todd]
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I'm sure after seeing that little fiasco,McCain has put that Bozo on his list of also-rans.
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#443755 - 07/14/08 08:56 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Hankster]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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I would have to agree...those two minutes of idiocy will likely make Mr. Sanford's career top out as Governor...he won't likely be getting anywhere near the White House this time around, at least...

Fish on...

Todd
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#443769 - 07/14/08 10:23 PM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: Todd]
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It will take the Democrats years to clean up Bush's mess.
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#443801 - 07/15/08 09:49 AM Re: Man you guys really want this guy? LOL lolz [Re: fish4brains]
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F4B,

Liberal as I am, I don't think the Dems rate real high in the competency department either. Cleaning up the Bushco mess is gonna' require some competent people able and willing to work smart. I don't see either the Rs or Ds bringing that option to the table. Bugs me no end because there is no shortage of bright people in the country, but those types don't stand a chance in politics.

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