#449166 - 08/21/08 03:32 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Registered: 03/17/99
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Loc: Everett, WA USA
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"Pensions are great, but they are also what is leading to the collapse of many american companies as there work force gets older.."
Pensions were unable to fulfill their obligations to the pensioners because they were under funded. Period. Due to a change in the accounting methods used and that corporations were allowed to "borrow" against the assets in their employees' pension funds. This happened while Clinton was president and we had a republican congress. Who benefited? The corporations of course. Please disprove anything I said and show your work.
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#449167 - 08/21/08 03:36 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: stever in everett]
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Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 771
Loc: Everett, WA USA
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"My favorite Obammy moment is, when asked about drilling and oil prices, he stated that all americans have to do is inflate their tires properly and tune up their cars..problem solved what a Dork!"
It is true that it would save everyone more than the McSame gas tax holiday and it costs nothing.
The real thing wrong with McSame is he is too damn old. He'll be 72 in a few days. He'll need dipers soon.
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#449168 - 08/21/08 03:38 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: stever in everett]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 4121
Loc: everett
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My pension and retirement account is money negociated in leu of wages in my pocket--- same with my health insurance. To have a company take it would be theft in my book.
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#449174 - 08/21/08 04:34 PM
Re: 52 seconds
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Registered: 01/02/08
Posts: 930
Loc: Chico, CA
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Exactly Jerry. When someone's pension fund goes missing, the head of whoever was in charge at the time should roll. The more of this kinda' crap goes on in this country and I think we should borrow the guillotine from the French Revolution. There truly is a lack of brutal capital punishment in this country, not to mention the huge financial rewards of being a big time white collar crook. There should be blood in the streets. I just get all warm and fuzzy feeling about justice served. guillotine is far to "humane" - I'm for drawn and quartered in the public square with live TV coverage. Make sure everyone knows what happens when you break the law. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYn5hxeFt10totally off topic now, but oh well...
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#449180 - 08/21/08 06:45 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: stever in everett]
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 1308
Loc: Bellevue
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"My favorite Obammy moment is, when asked about drilling and oil prices, he stated that all americans have to do is inflate their tires properly and tune up their cars..problem solved what a Dork!"
It is true that it would save everyone more than the McSame gas tax holiday and it costs nothing.
The real thing wrong with McSame is he is too damn old. He'll be 72 in a few days. He'll need dipers soon.
I bet Mccain is healthier than Obama, who smokes 2 packs of cancer sticks a day...just looking at him you can tell he is unhealthy...Obama won't even make it to 70 at this rate.
Edited by Sol Duc (08/21/08 06:48 PM)
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#449188 - 08/21/08 08:38 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: Sol Duc]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/12/03
Posts: 4271
Loc: undisclosed location
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Dogfish: Does the Section 179 apply to purchases over 10 K only ? I mean, just asking and all.................... 
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#449189 - 08/21/08 08:54 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: Kanektok Kid]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 3809
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Feel free to buy some goats, or sheep. Here is a basic idea of what applies. As always, check with your accountant. Click below Section 179 info
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#449190 - 08/21/08 09:09 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/12/03
Posts: 4271
Loc: undisclosed location
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What do think I am, a Republican ? I was wondering about the new or used aspect, and that handy little website in your link answered a couple of other questions I was wondering about also, so thanks.
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#449197 - 08/21/08 09:49 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: Kanektok Kid]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 7205
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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I wonder if I could depreciate the dozens of rods and reels I destroy every year? Probably doesn't matter, since I already write off the entire purchase price, and don't pay any property taxes on them...
Fish on...
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#449207 - 08/21/08 10:57 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: Todd]
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Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 903
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Gotta say, those who do not want to pay to help children are scum. As far as children being responsible for the situation they are in - no not their fault. As a society we MUST take care of them even if that means taking care of their mother whatever her name might be. It might suprise some to know that now & again the children of the very poorest end up very rich. Guess that has something to do with the American way -LOL.
Btw, pensions are still offered thru UNIONS -less than 50% of those now retiring have a pension - approx. 80% of those who do worked union.
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#449208 - 08/21/08 11:30 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: blue water pro]
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Registered: 09/22/07
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On another note, as far as McCain being too old - Regean was born February 6, 1911 taking office on January 20, 1981 - 70 just shy a few day, elected to a 2nd term when HE WAS OLDER THAN McCain. So he did his hair, McCain has been white haired since he returned from Vietnam - too many pics taken to do the "just for men". Someone told me the other day that McCain reminds them of Regean but not me, to me he is more like LBJ.
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#449264 - 08/22/08 10:14 AM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: Chuck E]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 286
Loc: Salem OR
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"instead we should look forward to paying for Shaquanda's illigetimate kids, drug rehab, and countless other worthless social programs."
So, based on your post, you are ok with corporate welfare, tax subsidies for sports teams, farm subsidies and that sort of thing. How do you feel about the money unaccounted for in Irag? The 'welfare' going to line pockets of the corps that have that money is way more than anything going to support welfare kids. Also, it may amaze you but not all people on welfare are people of color such as your veiled 'Shaquanda' comment would suggest.
Your "Tool" tag line certainly is correct. One helps the economy, one hurts the economy. I work for a corporation as do most so if the subsidies help me to ensure my job and bonuses, I enjoy cheap groceries (as does shaquanda, Debbie, martina, and cho (is that better =) ). Iraq sucks, but if it brings stability to that country than hopefully it will show some value. As for being scum that doesn't care about kids.. Yes I am because without any incentive to not have them, then I will get to pay for them in some part for there whole lives. Starting out with welfare, then social programs, then in the prison system in many cases. My children will have to deal with dumbed down public schools to make little Johnny feel better about himself. My insurance rates will go up when they steal my car stereo and break into my house and when they hit my car with no inusrance.
Edited by willametteriveroutlaw (08/22/08 10:16 AM)
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#449350 - 08/22/08 09:35 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 903
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You have no idea who will make a difference in this world, even if you pretend to know, you don't.
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#449611 - 08/25/08 03:16 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: blue water pro]
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 286
Loc: Salem OR
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You have no idea who will make a difference in this world, even if you pretend to know, you don't. You are correct, but you can surmise that most of the time a well bred dog from hunting stock will out hunt a mix breed.
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#449650 - 08/25/08 07:14 PM
Re: 52 seconds
[Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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Registered: 09/22/07
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I believe in the American way, that is opportunity for all, therefore I personally do not count any American out before they have had their chance.
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