I used to be a member of the NRA...but they make most of their money lying to their membership, who, for some reason, doesn't seem to mind...I, on the other hand, do mind, so no more money for them from me.

They're not even about gun ownership rights anymore...they're just another tool in the RNC tool box...and most of their members are tools, too...and most of them don't even seem to know it.

Those who do don't seem to care.

Fish on...

Todd

Yeah.

No threat to gun ownership?
YGBFK.

This year gun owners won probably the biggest decision ever regarding the right to bear arms.
Though the media barely even covered it.

From the bastian of foaming mouth liberal media outlets..NPR.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91913260

Thank goodness for conservative judge appointments.

750 yards is a helluva' poke. I've never shot with a scope. My longest shot and deer kill was only 30 yards here in brushy western WA. That was part of the reason I switched to bow hunting.

Sal, no doubt the Democratic Party has been schitzoid about firearms since Kennedy was shot. But I vote for a lot of Dems, so I consider it part of my civic responsibility to let them know that I support the Constitution, including all Amendments. Considering that the Republicans are against almost everything else that I'm for, excepting the 2nd Amendment, I'm more comfortable voting for Dems and think there are plenty of other 2nd Amendment supporters who vote for Dems that we can thwart any attacks on the 2nd Amendment while promoting a generally liberal agenda. As with so many things, the anti-2nd Amendment types are a highly vocal minority, loud, but still a minority.

Hank, after reading the DC 2nd amendment decsion, I don't think the SCOTUS composition would have mattered much at all. The decision would have still come down the same. Talk about muddled reasoning, given the usual articulateness and intellectual rigor of their decisions, this was the most poorly written SCOTUS decision I've ever read. I speculate that was not an accident.

Sg

It IS difficult to speculate on how the composition of SCOTUS would effect that decision. It was,however, the Lib faction of the court that voted against 2nd Ammendment rights. Kerry and Gore vowed to appoint judges that protected Roe V Wade thus those judges would be, by my reasoning, defined as Libs and not particularly pro gun rights.

The decision rightly held that states could prevent certain people from owning guns, or certain types of guns. The next round in the courts regarding how they must be stored should prove interesting.

The "lib" faction of the SCOTUS... I always get a chuckle when I hear that.

For the record... ONLY Justice Ginsburg and Justice Breyer were appointed by a Democratic president. (Clinton)


The rest come to you courtesy of Reagan, Bush and shrub.

2 outta nine... they got some real power there!

You probably were a Bork fan... huh Hank?

I did like Bork.I Like Thomas,Scalia,Roberts and Alito as well. Throw Kennedy into the mix because he voted in favor of the 2nd Ammendment. I like strict Constitutionalists,period. Ginsberg and Breyer were two that voted against it.

What was your take on the eminent domain ruling from the SC, Hank?

That one had me scratching my head. WTF were they thinking?

I haven't the foggiest.

And who was in the majority, and who was in the minority was a head-scratcher, too.

I didn't see that one coming, and I consider it a farce of a decision.

I have some issues with dudes decrying "activist" judges, then applauding when the same dudes define "militia" in the Constitution as a deer hunter with an assault rifle, or a dude standing on the corner in D.C. with a gun in his pocket.

Where's all the "activist judge" crying now?

Oh, that's right...they're only "activist judges" when they don't do what you like, and they're somehow "strict Constitutionalists" when they do something you do like...that relativism amongst the black and white conservatives is some of the most rank hypocrisy out there...bar none.

Fish on...

Todd

The eminent domain case was bullchit from almost every angle...I'm not sure where that one came from.

Fish on...

Todd

Think about it Mr. liberal Lawyer, aint that what politics is all about?????

Also seems to sound like you think the current interpretation of the second ammendment is errrr... Bogus?

This case was a redirction of a clause in the 5th Ammendment that says government can take property for "public use" and changed it to "public purpose", meaning essentially that a higher tax base for a community was a good thing. Rehnquist,O'Connor,Thomas and Scalia wrote dissenting opinions.

Of interesting note, the two justices appointed by Clinton, Breyer and Ginsberg, cast their lot with the majority in this decision. I don't recall either of the Clintons tsk tsking their votes.

On the other hand, GWB issued an executive order instructing the federal govt. to use eminent domain for the purpose of benefitting the general public and not for advancing the economic interests of private parties. Quite a switch from the man who only wants what is best for the "rich".

Mom, are you ready to get back in the game?

Mf

The SCOTUS decision does not suprise me even if it was close. US gov knows better than to try & take guns from the American People because there are way too many of us that do not think from my cold dead hands is a sale speech but rather believe it down to our bones.

Did you guys know Obama wasn't even born in this country, is a radical muslim, and probably getting campaign money from Bin Laden ?

Well neither did I until I opened my E-Mail today.

I also learned that the bible tells us that Obama is likely the anti christ, and Hal Lindsey was even quoted as saying Obama could be paving the way for the anti christ, if he isn't in fact the anti christ.

Now this came as quite a surprise to me, seeing as I have read the bible, and even studied Revelations a bit. What is even more surprising is the Jerry Fallwell said the anti christ was probably alive (this was a few years ago) and was a white male of Jewish parentage.

So somebody is wrong here, and since Fallwell is dead, I guess we have to go with the E-Mail...............

Although I was sort of leaning towards Marvin Hamlisch, given Fallwells description....................

I'm voting for Marvin Hamlisch now. I loved the soundtrack to "The Sting"!

Ron Paul is counting on your vote...don't disappoint.

Wait till the 'Paulbots' show up at the Republican Convention...........

It'll be difficult for the Secret Service to determine who is a bonafide threat, and who is a bonafide delegate.