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#449700 - 08/25/08 10:06 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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FRom CBS4 in Denver: "CBS4 has now learned at least four people are under arrest in connection with a possible plot to kill Barack Obama at his Thursday night acceptance speech in Denver. All are being held on either drug or weapons charges. CBS4 Investigator Brian Maass reported one of the suspects told authorities they were 'going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a ... rifle ... sighted at 750 yards.'

"Law enforcement sources tell Maass that one of the suspects "was directly asked if they had come to Denver to kill Obama. He responded in the affirmative."

From ABC News: "A witness interviewed in the case said one of suspects allegedly said the guns were to be used to kill the Illinois senator, but authorities do not believe the alleged threat put Obama in immediate danger.....Authorities told ABC News the men had tattoos of white supremacist images."

Andrew Romano of Newsweek brings this amazing tidbit: "The hotel where the pair of would-be assassins' was staying: the Cherry Creek Hotel at 600 South Colorado Boulevard in Glendale. The hotel where NEWSWEEK's entire convention team is staying: the Cherry Creek Hotel at 600 South Colorado Boulevard in Glendale.

"Apparently, crack NEWSWEEK investigative reporter Mark Hosenball actually spied a couple of FBI agents lurking around the premises late last night."

More from Hosenball: "A source familiar with the investigation said that Gartrell and the other two suspects were believed to be white supremacists. The real question now is whether the men were in position to carry out any kind of threats against the candidate—or whether they were trying to impress girlfriends, the source said. The Obama campaign declined comment, referring reporters to the U.S. attorney's statement."



I usually try to impress my girlfriends with high powered rifles and scopes, white supremacist tattoos and meth.................. rofl ..................doesn't everybody ?
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#449702 - 08/25/08 10:31 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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I bet there are a few around here who are impressed...guns, meth, the Klan...doesn't get any more American than that, does it?

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#449704 - 08/25/08 10:48 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Todd]
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No not American. In fact Meth was invented by the Japanese to use against American soldiers back in WWII.

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#449716 - 08/26/08 06:59 AM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: blue water pro]
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Don't mind the guns. Tattoos are okay for some folks, no issue there. White supremecists (KLAN) are stupid and insecure people who blame their lack of success on others, meth is the scourge of the US, eclipsing the damage that Crack cocaine did in the 80's & 90's. I'll give you 2 out of 4 there Todd. wink

As far as the media reporting anything about firearms, they are almost always suspect. I've seen them report .45MM pistol (about the size of a pin), 50MM rifle (2"), 9 caliber pistol (an inch bigger than a deck gun for a warship). Calling semi-auto firearms assault rifles is another good one, but hey, it is sexier. Of course the media isn't really worried about the facts all the time, the scarier the story, the more ads they sell. 750 yards is quite a poke out there with a rifle. Did they mention the caliber?

I wonder if they were just a few misguided good old boys out in Colorado getting ready for a hunting trip? wink Haven't read the news reports yet, so I'll respond a little later on that.
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#449724 - 08/26/08 08:39 AM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Dogfish]
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Yeah Dogfish, you're probably right.

Just a couple of modern day good 'ol boys on probation headin' out for some huntin'............... rofl

The tats and meth was just them gettin' down with their own bad selves, and the whole probation from a felony thing is just another example of the gummint taking away their liberties.

They likely were under the impression what they thought mattered, and sound pretty inept from what little I gleaned last night.

Now somebody is going to have to move their stuff out of their trailer....................... smile
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#449725 - 08/26/08 08:48 AM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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And they just had that trailer painted, too. wink

Hey, at least we agree that these folks are stupid criminals!
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#449727 - 08/26/08 08:53 AM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Dogfish]
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I saw a mug shot of one of the dudes on a website last night.

If he came and applied for a job with me, he'd go into the 'NFW" file.

Likely there is at least one car up on blocks outside his trailer, and likely that one of the vehicles is either a Camaro or a Firebird.

I mean statistically speaking and all...................... wink
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#449750 - 08/26/08 11:36 AM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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Here's the wierd part, okay, wierder part. None of the other news organizations are running with the story, other than ABC. You would think if this was a credible threat EVERYBODY would be running the story. Looks like some tweaker was coerced into saying there was a threat to Obama, or maybe an embelishment of the officer once he saw the tattoos.
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#449763 - 08/26/08 12:35 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Dogfish]
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
750 yards is quite a poke out there with a rifle.


Didn't you watch the video? It's all about breaking in that new rifle first!

BigStick would make that shot. Easily.

laugh
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#449764 - 08/26/08 12:42 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: parker]
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Originally Posted By: parker
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
750 yards is quite a poke out there with a rifle.


Didn't you watch the video? It's all about breaking in that new rifle first!

BigStick would make that shot. Easily.

laugh


BigStick woulda made that shot with an bow and arrow babble


Edited by SportJet (08/26/08 12:42 PM)

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#449768 - 08/26/08 01:15 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: ChuckS]
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Originally Posted By: SportJet
Originally Posted By: parker
Originally Posted By: Dogfish
750 yards is quite a poke out there with a rifle.


Didn't you watch the video? It's all about breaking in that new rifle first!

BigStick would make that shot. Easily.

laugh


BigStick woulda made that shot with an bow and arrow babble


Did you look at those mental giants? I would also think meth might impair one's ability to hold steady for such a shot. I guess they could always use a little heroin to take the edge off. wink
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#449780 - 08/26/08 02:27 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: blue water pro]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
No not American. In fact Meth was invented by the Japanese to use against American soldiers back in WWII.



WTF??



Get your facts straight. Start with Google.
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#449782 - 08/26/08 02:39 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Irie]
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All the cool combatants in WWII were using amphetamines! Gives a whole new meaning to blitzkrieg and our flyboys used them for those long-range bombing missions zip
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#449812 - 08/26/08 06:18 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Mikespike]
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As far as the media reporting anything about firearms, they are almost always suspect. I've seen them report .45MM pistol (about the size of a pin), 50MM rifle (2"), 9 caliber pistol (an inch bigger than a deck gun for a warship). Calling semi-auto firearms assault rifles is another good one, but hey, it is sexier. Of course the media isn't really worried about the facts all the time, the scarier the story, the more ads they sell. 750 yards is quite a poke out there with a rifle. Did they mention the caliber?





A 14 year old kid with a "SNIPER RIFLE"!
Scary huh?





750 is one Helluva poke.
I made a shot on a buck at 668 two years ago, the furthest of my life.
It was barley visible with the naked eye.


Oh Christ, let's not get started on guns.
The main reasons I've voted republican over the years is to protect my gun rights and hunting priveledges.
The threat is real all you have to do is google up "anti hunting" or "anti gun".

Some of you lefties always roll your eyes when this is mentioned like it is some fictional paranoia.
I often wonder if some of you would change your tune if there were organizations out there trying to end fishing that were linked to the democratic party.

Look at old "Chappy" Kennedy that they rolled up on stage last night, he is a gun owners worst nightmare and the hero of the convention.
I don't like handguns or assault weapons, but JFK wasn't killed with any of those and you can bet old Teddy has an opinion on precision long range rifles.

I just cannot warm up to the dems when all the anti organizations are tugging on their coat tails.

Ceratinly some are waiting to pounce on me calling me a tool and a Bush supporter.

The guy has enjoyed a miserable presidency and for the most part has been an real embarassment to true conservatives , his public speaking appearances are shameful.
I must say though that after eight years of hearing Bush butcher the english language it IS refreshing to hear an articulate public speaker like Obama.
Cheney set responsible gun owners back a dozen years with this outrageous bird hunting fiasco.

If I were in a different financial position, a minority, a woman, gay or a tele environmentalist I'd be singing Barak's song.

But I'm not, I'm comfortable and big game hunting has been a life long passion.
I cannot support someone who favors my enemies.

On social issues, I'm an athiest, pro choice, pro environment, anti affirmative action, pro gun, pro border.
Guess I'm closer to being libertarian than republican, but there are only two real parties.
Until I feel comfortable that the treehuggers are not in bed with the democrats, I just can't vote that way.

There is something to the old adage....God, Guns & Gays .
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#449815 - 08/26/08 06:30 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Salmonella]
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So how many of you have had your guns taken away by the Democrats?

You can still own a gun and not be a Republican.

Brainwashed by the NRA and Pierre LaPointe?

The NRA can kiss my a$$! All their mail crap goes in the garbage.

Just another excuse to further their political causes.

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#449816 - 08/26/08 06:30 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Salmonella]
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Good points and I pretty much agree with you, so don't worry about me piling on.


Youth running wild with an assault rifle! (my son)

You have me beat on long shots. My first bear was 346 yards.
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#449821 - 08/26/08 06:58 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Dogfish]
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Solid post, Sal, and I'm in agreement with you on virtually all of it.

I've always said that the attacks on gun rights will be the albatross around the neck of the Democratic party forever. They don't seem to fathom the fact that attacks on the 2nd amendment are just as distasteful to true Americans as attacks on the 1st amendment.
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#449825 - 08/26/08 07:20 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Dan S.]
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If Kerry had been elected (or Gore for that matter) and had appointed Supreme Court Justices, do you really think the decision regarding Washington D.C. gun rights (therefore all of our rights) would have turned out like it did?

Gotta go....Hillarious wil be speaking soon and I don't want to miss it.
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#449828 - 08/26/08 07:59 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Steelheadman]
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[quote=Steelheadman]So how many of you have had your guns taken away by the Democrats?
[quote]



Not all democrats are anti gun,but nearly all anti gunners are democrats.
Brainwashed?
Not hardly.
I've never been a gun nut.
But you can bet that without the NRA, there would be far more restrictions on firearms ownership.

My concerns are more tied to anti hunting issues as fewer and fewer kids are exposed to the outdoors and are being "educated" about wildlife by Animal Planet .
Everything is endangered and the evil hunter is the reason why.
Urbanites are losing all concepts about where their food comes from other than a grocery store.
Meat has four corners,not four legs.

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#449843 - 08/26/08 11:10 PM Re: Obama Not Eligible To Run? [Re: Steelheadman]
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
So how many of you have had your guns taken away by the Democrats?

You can still own a gun and not be a Republican.

Brainwashed by the NRA and Pierre LaPointe?

The NRA can kiss my a$$! All their mail crap goes in the garbage.

Just another excuse to further their political causes.


Yep!

I schit-canned my NRA membership years ago. Cut up my card & burnt it.

All they are now is a propaganda and fundraising arm of the RNC.

They are nothing like they used to a few decades back when it was about Responsibility, education & safety.
Now it's Abortion this, Commie that , United Nations blah blah, Gay Agenda this, Jack booted thugs that, Secular Humanism yadda yadda here, Book Learnin' fer our wimmin' that....
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