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#450921 - 09/02/08 11:21 AM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Keta]
father of three Offline
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Registered: 10/01/04
Posts: 125
Loc: Edgewood
I own the pots. I actually own six of them. My dad and his girlfriend were using them. He has his own bouys. All four bouys were labeled with names city and state. They did not have an address on them. Becuase of that they are in violation. I don't dispute that. I went out to help him find the pots after he couldn't find them. What bothers me is.

1) Being called a poacher. I have fished and hunted Wa for 40 years. I have never had a violation of any kind nor has my dad who has fished for 70+years. The pots were legal, the season was open, only legal crabs were retained, cathes are always recorded and with the exception of the address the bouys were legal in terms of size and color.

2) They shouldn't be using this resource ( $400k boat and four officers) for enforce this type of violation.

3) If they are going to pull pots they should make an attempt to let people know. How about attaching a waterproof sticker with a warning.

4) They should have some kind of clue as how to return pots to people who would like them back.



Edited by father of three (09/03/08 06:29 PM)

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#450922 - 09/02/08 11:25 AM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: MrBill]
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Duct tape works great for labeling pots, plus a sharpie.
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#450945 - 09/02/08 01:21 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: father of three]
Rickomatic Offline
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Registered: 09/13/01
Posts: 93
Loc: Snohomish
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You can thank Bush and his misguided, answer to 911, the inept Home Land Security Department..what a joke, just like bush.


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#450953 - 09/02/08 02:36 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Rickomatic]
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Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 1614
Loc: Mukilteo or Westport
*Poaching, the theft or illegal killing of animals or plants, or sometimes artifacts. A poacher is someone who engages in poaching.
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#450954 - 09/02/08 02:39 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Dan S.]
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Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 1614
Loc: Mukilteo or Westport
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Take the poaching ticket, then fight it in court so the judge can read the cops the riot act for being so f'n stupid about this. They can't write you a ticket (that will hold up in court) for what your old man was up to any more than they can charge you for murder if you loan someone your rifle and they shoot somebody with it.

Parker, does fishing with a barbed hook in a barbless area make you a poacher? Then how the f*ck does crabbing without proper labels on the floats constitute poaching ?


If you harvest a fish using that barbed hook, the answer is yes
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#450957 - 09/02/08 02:53 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Rickomatic]
Haifisch Offline
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Registered: 04/18/02
Posts: 154
Loc: Silverdale WA
It would seem the police were in violation as they pulled pots that didn't have their names on them. (ha-Ha) If the regs were taken literally, you could set whoevers pots you wanted, you just have to have the owners at the pot when pulled. I wonder if they actually have the authority to salvage pots when ever they see fit. There doesn't seem to me to be any way for them to have had probable cause to pull the pots, how could they know who was setting the pots? My conspiracy suspicious nature makes me wonder who put them up to this? The TV channel may well be interested in the story.
And P.S. The RCWs I found on this state that the proceeds from confiscated gear sales is required to be turned over to the general fund for transfer to the WDFW. I wonder where the money goes from those police auctions?


Edited by Haifisch (09/02/08 03:28 PM)

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#451269 - 09/03/08 06:18 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Haifisch]
father of three Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 10/01/04
Posts: 125
Loc: Edgewood
Got the pots back today with help from the WDFW. THE WDFW was excellent. I must confess my dad didn't have the pots labeled very well. I will help him do a better job in the future. In his defense he is 78 has had two open heart surgeries, six by-passes and a stroke this spring. He started fishing at Pt Defiance in the late 30's using a row boat.


Edited by father of three (09/03/08 06:29 PM)

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#451271 - 09/03/08 06:38 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: father of three]
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Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 1381
Loc: Bainbridge Island WA
glad you got 'em back
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#451273 - 09/03/08 06:43 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: D3Smartie]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27840
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Good news on getting them all back...

Fish on...

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#451275 - 09/03/08 06:53 PM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Todd]
Jack Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 12/29/99
Posts: 119
Loc: Gig Harbor
How is it that the WDFW helped you out? Jack

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#451358 - 09/04/08 12:24 AM Re: LOST CRABPOTS IN TACOMA (CULPRIT IDENTIFIED) [Re: Jack]
Fish-Bite Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 221
Loc: Rainier, WA 98576
what an interesting thread...

a guy on my dock got a ticket while crabbing this year. I thought it was kind of funny that he was upset about it (not marking the crab immidiately after retained), -doesnt EVERYONE know better by now?????- but this whole thing is a little different. TPD and other police departments should leave the fish and game citations and confiscations to the WDFW.



glad to hear you got the pots back, what a cluster...

My dad is getting older too. I completely understand how they mess things up a little. I have to teach him how to turn the fishfinder on at the beginning of every season.

I give props to your dad for still getting out there too!

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