#450140 - 08/28/08 03:15 PM
Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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Romney Pawlentry or Lieberman? Any other possible choices that haven't been mentioned?
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#450142 - 08/28/08 03:18 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: stever in everett]
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Pawlenty only because I don't think he has been exposed to the voting public at large, unlike the other two. Romney is an also ran and Lieberman is an independent.
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#450143 - 08/28/08 03:18 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: stever in everett]
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I'm going with Kay Bailey Hutchison...to try and snap up some of Hillary's "I'm only voting for a woman!" supporters.
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#450150 - 08/28/08 03:44 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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When is the last time a VP candidate helped bring a state his father was Governor of 40 years ago into the fold for a party ?  Mass, going red because of romney, I doubt it. Romney belongs to a 'cult' as far as 35% or more of the Republican Party is concerned, so that may cut turnout, albeit primarily in states where McCain is already sporting good leads.
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#450154 - 08/28/08 04:03 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Dude he is in a cult. I saw the South Park episode.
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#450155 - 08/28/08 04:04 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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I never said he was going to help Mccain win Mass, I said the state of Mich.
So I ask again.................... When is the last time a VP candidate helped bring a state his father was Governor of 40 years ago into the fold for a party ? 
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#450163 - 08/28/08 04:51 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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I doubt Condi, she has said no, but I suppose it's possible.
Why would a state with 9% unemployment vote for a guy who wants to continue the policies that are in part responsible for that rate ?
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#450173 - 08/28/08 05:04 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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I doubt it, Obama is the first African American to win a major party nomination for President, and giving a speech in front of 76 000 people . I am betting he gets a little tonight.................and isn't reading the (unadjusted) GDP rate today. What is it, 11 of the last 12 quarters the post report revisions ( almost always made after all data is collected) have been downward revisions ?  McCain is GIVING away tickets for his 'big' rally in Ohio, and hasn't been able to fill a 10,000 seat arena.................. 
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#450182 - 08/28/08 05:25 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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McCain't .........................  Can't fill a 10 k hall in a battelground state.................  Giving away tickets mind you, not selling them.
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#450183 - 08/28/08 05:25 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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They should just put up "It's all Clinton's Fault!" posters...that should get at least a few thousand more whackjobs out of the woodwork.
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#450184 - 08/28/08 05:27 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Todd]
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#450186 - 08/28/08 05:28 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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They've tried that for the last 8 years, sort of worn thin at this point.
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#450194 - 08/28/08 06:24 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Kanektok Kid]
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I am surprisingly in agreement with Todd on Hutchison. That selection might sway enough women voters to even cross party lines. She has won Texas Senatorial races with wide margins but has a little bit of a problem with the old Dem inspired indictment over using Senate staff and computers during a campaign.
However, my gut feeling is the election is going to hinge on the Rust Belt states and Pawlenty would be a good choice there. His margin of victory in the last election was pretty slim though and his wife has made some pretty bizarre statements that don't sit well with a lot of pro-choice women. It would help McCain with the evangelical vote and that is fairly crucial for a Republican.
Just like the last election, whoever can pile up the most crap against their opponent will be the winner. I am however revising my last prediction of an Obama victory to a win for McCain. There's too much crap on Obama for him to win outright. It will be McCain by more than you think.
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#450196 - 08/28/08 06:29 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Hankster]
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Pawlenty made a huge run up in the political prediction markets today, and romney dropped 32 points. Pawlenty also cancelled his appearances for Friday.................while Lieberman is still on vacation, and so...........................  Hutchinson would be a good choice for McCain't, but....................not all women in the country are as shallow and superficial as Republican women are, so I don't think she'll help all that much.
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#450209 - 08/28/08 08:29 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Kanektok Kid]
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I never said he was going to help Mccain win Mass, I said the state of Mich.
So I ask again.................... When is the last time a VP candidate helped bring a state his father was Governor of 40 years ago into the fold for a party ? Your right , it holds no water. I heard it on the TV as well. Engler couldnt deliver and he was a popular gov, at least for a while.
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#450210 - 08/28/08 08:38 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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Fred Thompson. wasnt he the first one out, like Obiden?
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#450214 - 08/28/08 08:53 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Kanektok Kid]
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The Republican women I have been associated with are a far cry from "shallow and superficial". I would characterize them more as educated and accomplished. Doctors,Lawyers,R.N.'s, Business Executive type people. I know one who stopped her pediatric gastroenterologist practice to raise her family at home. Of course her husband is an orthopedic surgeon so that helps out. Another ortho surgeon I know is married to a plastic surgeon who quit her practice to raise their kids.
The Democratic women I have met tend to be those that padded their resumes with Women's Studies degrees and are just looking for "an honest man" to help out with the bills and be "my best friend", wash the BMW, mow the lawn and take her kids to the park on Superbowl Sunday.
I'd like to share an amusing tale of a "typical" S.F. liberal woman that I had the pleasure to x-ray. I go to her exam room and she is in her gray sweatshirt,jeans,Birkenstocks and to top this all off she has the requisite KQED Panda canvas bag. I take her to my x-ray room that is covered with fishing related art and photos, pewter Salmon hanging from the ceiling, Loomis,Owner,Trout Unlimited,CCA,etc. stickers on the observation window. Just a plethora of items my house has no room for. The conversation went like this:
"Do you Fish?"
"I do!"
"Are you the type of fisherman that uses the plastic hooks and lets the fish go?"
"Actually I'm the type of fisherman that uses the steel hooks and eats them."
"HUMPH!!!"
The conversation went somewhat downhill from there.
I'm reasonably certain she's pissed about 1) Obama beating Hillary 2) Obama not naming Hillary as VP and 3) me not releasing all of my fish.
I'm also reasonably certain she hopes McCain picks someone like Adolf Eichmann as his VP.
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#450215 - 08/28/08 08:54 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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I'd say the Dems have a few states in mind to try and win some crossover votes...at tonight's show they trotted out a handful of delegates from around the country to talk about why the were there...all were ex-Republicans who voted for Bush, twice, but aren't going to vote for McCain.
They were from Ohio, Florida, Michigan and New Mexico.
I think it's pretty clear where they think they can nab some electoral votes.
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#450216 - 08/28/08 08:58 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Todd]
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Plastic hooks?
Am I that far outside the loop? Do they even make those?
There are a lot of Republicans* who don't like it that we fish, especially around here...most of them are part of Big Energy, or their subsidiaries (eg., the aluminum industry)...and the building industry, too. They want to save all the allowable ESA kill for their businesses, not for our "recreation"...
Fuk'em, I say.
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*not necessarily conservatives...Republicans.
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#450220 - 08/28/08 09:06 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Todd]
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That's one of the major problems I face at the ballot box; I'm a nature loving conservative. Quite the paradox. Around here the biggest problem we face is the water grabbers and those that want to set up gravel mines on the rivers.
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#450221 - 08/28/08 09:09 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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My guess is Leiberman.
The choices would be far left, or middle right.
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#450222 - 08/28/08 09:11 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Hankster]
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I feel for you...the first time I saw a "Sportsmen for Bush!" bumper sticker I almost swerved and ran their Plymouth Reliant off the road with my one ton.
Sportsmen for Bush? Really? What kind of sport? What good is having an assault rifle if all there is to shoot at is concrete?
I think "Athletic Intellectuals for Rosie O'Donnell" actually makes more sense.
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#450227 - 08/28/08 09:23 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Todd]
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I think John should ask.... Mf
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#450240 - 08/29/08 12:35 AM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Hankster]
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That's one of the major problems I face at the ballot box; I'm a nature loving conservative. Quite the paradox. Around here the biggest problem we face is the water grabbers and those that want to set up gravel mines on the rivers. Don't you mean "Tree-Hugger" or "Eco-Terrorist?" 
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#450254 - 08/29/08 06:01 AM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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No.
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#450264 - 08/29/08 07:39 AM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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McCain just announced Palin as VP. Will comment later after I have had a chance to absorb this stunner. So far I think it is a positive for him.
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#450270 - 08/29/08 08:03 AM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Hankster]
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I had heard her name mentioned a few times as an outside chance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_PalinShe was born in Idaho and moved to Alaska as an infant. Her husband is an Eskimo. I am sure she will be pro drilling in ANWR. I wonder where she stands on the Pebbel mine issue.
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#450302 - 08/29/08 10:55 AM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: stever in everett]
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She's ultra-conservative...any of the women that vote for her were already going to vote for McCain anyway, so I don't think she has the crossover pull that Hutchison would have had...
They're already calling her a "maverick", too...but she's more of a "I think I'll just call myself a maverick" than an actual maverick, just like McSame...against pro-choice, member of the NRA, fundamentalist Christian, loves Big Oil*, etc., etc.,...
*She earned her "maverick" title by going up against Big Oil on one thing, once.
I was thinking that McCain would be aiming at Hillary voters, but I think he went completely the other way and is appealling to the RWWJ base by selecting one of them as his running mate.
He did add the "If you want to vote for an historic event, now you can do it by voting for me, too"...I don't know how much that is worth.
Fish on...
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#450427 - 08/29/08 08:15 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Todd]
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She was born in Idaho and moved to Alaska as an infant. Her husband is an Eskimo. 'Quote
Ive seen him on TV, if he is 1/8 eskimo, Id be surprised. They met in high school. I dont know what the busing arrangements are in Alaska.
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#450428 - 08/29/08 08:18 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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*She earned her "maverick" title by going up against Big Oil on one thing, once.
Turning down the bridge to nowhere......
Running against Murkowski and winning, taking on corruption in the state. Firing people who dont tow the line.
can you count?
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#450437 - 08/29/08 08:50 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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She might want to start with corruption in her own portfolio...she's the first VP nominate to be under an active investigation for corruption and ethical violations.
McSame took a big risk on that point by tapping her for VP...I suspect, though, that this will only help her chances with her own investigation...Alaska would, of course, love to have someone in the White House.
"Firing people who don't tow the line" is not necessarily a good thing, depending on what that line is...firing people who don't cotton to her petty personal squabbles is about as corrupt as it gets.
LB, I used to think you were the reincarnation of this toolish figure known as eastsidedrifter, but then there were times when you started sounding smarter than him...but honestly, that wasn't exactly a high bar to surpass.
Lately, however, your incessant petty whining coupled with weird perspectives and a fundamental misunderstanding of some very basic tenets of a myriad of subjects makes me think that you might be someone else.
You're not really Rory, are you?
Fish on...
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#450438 - 08/29/08 08:57 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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She's under investigation for abuse of power back home...........  Now I think McCain't is just trying to fill Dick Cheney's shoes..........  About 4 months ago, there was a story going around the internet that was pretty out there, even for the internet, and we all know what sort of stuff goes on the 'tubes these days. I even read where Barak Obama was the anti-christ, although to be honest it was in an E-Mail with a link.........  Seems like...............let me find it.................here it is. Cover-up? Alaska Gov. Palin (R) announced she was pregnant. Local rumors suggest she is covering up for her 16 y/o daughter. (self.politics) submitted 4 months ago by jibegod to politics newcontroversialtopold On March 5th, 2008 Alaska's Republican Governor, Sarah Palin, announced to the media that she was 7 months pregnant with her 5th child. She is currently 44. The controversy arises from two sources: First, Palin does not appear preganant in any recent photographs. The announcement came as quite a shock to people who had worked closely with her, and have been quoted as saying that she did not appear pregnant whatsoever during the prior 7 months. While this is debatable, you can judge for yourself here: http://gov.state.ak.us/photos.php Second, Palin's daughter Bristol is 16 and attends an Anchorage high school. Students who have attended class with her report that she has been out of school for months, claiming a prolonged case of mono. Apparently, this rumor has made the rounds in the upper echelon of the Alaska legislature, and is a closely guarded secret. As far as I know, this rumor has not been discussed by any media outlets, in Alaska or otherwise. Almost as good as a Birth Certificate Story, eh boyz..............  Be patient with me, I am trying to fit in arouns here........... 
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#450441 - 08/29/08 09:02 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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Is it true that the baby was raised in a Madrassa in Pakistan? Was the baby baptized with a Koran?
Cool down, Sal...it's only a question, after all...I mean, where's the dad blamed liberal media? Why aren't they reporting on this important story, and especially these important questions?
Fish on...
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P.S. KK...are you sure you're not the anti-Christ?
It's just a question!
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#450445 - 08/29/08 09:13 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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#450448 - 08/29/08 09:21 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Todd]
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Gotta love the internet and all of the trash it provides.
The risk of Down syndrome increases if the mother is over 35 and the father is over 40; usually it is a combination of both an older mother and an older father.
A 16 year old giving birth to a Down syndrome baby is an extremely rare occurance.
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#450449 - 08/29/08 09:23 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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What if the 16 year old's boyfriend just turned 72 a few days ago? That's a combined age of 88...and that's a lot of years. I mean...I'm just asking...hypotheically 
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#450462 - 08/29/08 09:44 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
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Had a neighbor with Down syndrome, I really grew to like him. He was very interested in auto repair, showing up when the hood was open, to give me advice.
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#450465 - 08/29/08 09:53 PM
Re: Who will McCain choose as V.P.
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Wait for it.....
B e c a u s e
Here it comes...
T o d d
Steady....
c a n ' t
steady....
h e l p
patience....
h i m s e l f .......lol
Mf
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