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#450265 - 08/29/08 07:43 AM McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska?
TBJ Offline
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Shes hot but I dont think she is gonna get it done for 08. Good Luck -TBJ
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#450269 - 08/29/08 07:58 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: TBJ]
GreenRiver Offline
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Another reason to dislike her.

Governor Sarah Palin holds a salmon caught while setnetting
with her family in the Bristol Bay region.
http://www.alaskaseafood.org/industry/enews/092607govpalin.htm
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#450271 - 08/29/08 08:04 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: GreenRiver]
Salmonella Offline
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Registered: 11/29/04
Posts: 724
Dislike her?

RUFK?

I dig this chick!





Press Release: No. 07-14, May 11, 2007

Contact: Matt Robus, Director, Division of Wildlife Conservation, ADF&G, (907) 465-4191



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Governor Palin Introduces Bill to Streamline Predator Management Laws:
HB 256/SB 176 Clarify, Clean UP Statutes, Encourates Abundance-Based Management

(Juneau) - Governor Sarah Palin has introduced a bill in the State House and Senate that will simplify and clarify Alaska’s intensive management law for big game and the state's "same day airborne hunting" law. “I have said many times that my administration is committed to management of game for abundance, and to a proactive, science-based predator management program where appropriate,” said the Governor. “The bill I am introducing will give the Board of Game and state wildlife managers the tools they need to actively manage important game herds and help thousands of Alaskan families put food on their tables.”

The bill, House Bill 256 and Senate Bill 176, clarifies and simplifies the language of what is known as the “intensive management” law (AS 16.05.255 (e-g)), which requires the Alaska Board of Game to adopt regulations to restore populations of moose, caribou and deer in parts of the state where they have been depleted over time. During the last four winters, the state has been conducting predator control programs in some areas to build up moose and caribou herds.

“We have had good success in achieving lower wolf densities in the predator control areas during the first few years of the programs,” said Matt Robus, Director of the Division of Wildlife Conservation in the Department of Fish and Game. “There are now indications in our longest-established programs that moose populations are responding well to reduced levels of predation, and this will directly affect the harvestable surplus so that people will be able to harvest these animals for subsistence and personal use.”

The Governor’s bill clarifies state law that requires the Board of Game to implement regulations to help manage important game herds for both abundant numbers and abundant opportunities for Alaskans to harvest game. In addition, the bill uses the new term "active management,” which is broader and is used in place of "intensive management." The bill also would eliminate several current requirements that have proven to be problematic for both the Board and the courts, and definitions that vary from existing usage within the wildlife management profession.

HB256/SB176 takes two laws that were written to achieve almost exactly opposite purposes and harmonizes them so that the state's game managers, the courts, and the public will have less trouble understanding how they work together and the legal requirements that apply in each situation. The important principle of limiting use of airborne and same day airborne shooting of large predators is retained, while the process for conducting game management programs critical to meeting the state's constitutional mandates is made simpler, more workable, and more legally defensible.

Governor Palin said she is introducing the bill at this time because she wants to generate discussion on the important issues related to predator reduction as a component of abundance-based management. “I understand that the legislature doesn’t have time to give this bill a committee hearing before the end of this session,” she said. “I want Alaskans to look at this new language over the summer and fall, debate the issues and urge their legislators to pass the bill into law early next year.”



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#450272 - 08/29/08 08:04 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: GreenRiver]
stever in everett Offline
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This is the same area that would be most affected by the Pebbel mine that is being proposed.
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#450273 - 08/29/08 08:12 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: TBJ]
Magicfly Offline
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Originally Posted By: TBJ
Shes hot but I dont think she is gonna get it done for 08. Good Luck -TBJ


Holy smokes. [Insert gremlin rubbing one off here]

I totally disagree TBJ, her track record speaks for itself...she's a proven leader.

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#450275 - 08/29/08 08:16 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Magicfly]
Sol Duc Offline
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Not being a Senator should help the ticket. I guess we will find out more about her from both sides.

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#450281 - 08/29/08 08:56 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: GreenRiver]
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Originally Posted By: GreenRiver
Another reason to dislike her.

Governor Sarah Palin holds a salmon caught while setnetting
with her family in the Bristol Bay region.
http://www.alaskaseafood.org/industry/enews/092607govpalin.htm



It's fukin Alaksa, you either work for oil, the state, or commercial fishing. I lived up there for several years, everyones a commercial fishermen in some way seems.
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#450283 - 08/29/08 08:57 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
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She has the highest approv rating of any govern in hte country. She hunts, fishes and believes strongly in conservation. If only our govern had half the leadership we might be better off in our state. She also looks a lot better than the chubby old fatcats that are in hte running. Go Governer.
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#450284 - 08/29/08 09:06 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: docspud]
GreenRiver Offline
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She should just pose for playboy so all of you can really get off. Just remember the last 8 years were a disaster with this party.

Peace Out Home boys.
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#450298 - 08/29/08 10:50 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: GreenRiver]
Dogfish Offline
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That surprised me. Who would have thunk we would have the choices we have this year? Either way we make history with this election. Best wishes for both sides.
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#450299 - 08/29/08 10:52 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: GreenRiver]
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actually just the last 7...

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#450301 - 08/29/08 10:54 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Dogfish]
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
Who would have thunk we would have the choices we have this year?


We've only had 2 choices, and a lady VP candidate doesn't change that.

4 more years of the same BS, or 4 years of change.

I've just come up with the GOP's slogan: "Fear Change."
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#450303 - 08/29/08 10:56 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Roguefshr]
chasbo Offline
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When elected to office she sold the Gov. private jet . "we don't fly that way."

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#450307 - 08/29/08 11:01 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: chasbo]
Todd Offline
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I bet we'll see "Sportsmen for Palin!" bumper stickers...even though she's [censored] deep in Big Oil and comes from a commercial fishing background...why people continually vote against their own interests, even when it's clear that's what they're doing, is beyond me...must be the knee-jerk reaction:

See an "R", pull the lever.

Fundamentalist anti-choice Big OIl mining commercial fishing friend.

Wow...right up my alley.

Fish on...

Todd
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#450308 - 08/29/08 11:01 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: chasbo]
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Mayor of a 5,000 person city.
Governor for 1.5 years
VP Candidate.

Priceless.

She's right up there with Ferraro and Quayle. Just glad that McCain wasn't actually a good presidential candidate to begin with, or I might have been upset at the GOP's decision.

rofl
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#450310 - 08/29/08 11:04 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: parker]
Sol Duc Offline
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You're just saying that to appease the left front seat of future boat trips... rofl

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#450315 - 08/29/08 11:11 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
parker Offline
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Yes. wink

Actually, just having some fun fishing for GOP's today. They are in thick now and are biting just about anything you toss at 'em!

I'm a die-hard fisherman, and will fish for anything or anyone!

Fish on!

laugh
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#450316 - 08/29/08 11:12 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
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I'm waiting for BRun to say " I'd hit that like a Mack truck running down hill without brakes. Not that I'm going to vote that ticket or anything....I'm just sayin."
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#450317 - 08/29/08 11:15 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
Peterman Offline
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Registered: 02/25/08
Posts: 29
Loc: West Seattle
Just got this this morning after I signed the Pebble Mine petition earlier this week. I don't know how she interceded, but it's funny on the timing of this newsletter. It's a bit scary to think she'd be running this ship were old iron sides to keel over....

From Sportsman's Alliance for Alaska Newsletter:

NEWS RELEASE

Renewable Resources Coalition
Resolved to Continue the fight to save Bristol Bay

Anchorage, AK (August 27) - The RRC would like to acknowledge the tens of thousands of Alaskans who supported Proposition 4 as we did and the hundreds of volunteers who worked so diligently on this issue. The fight to save Bristol Bay’s wild salmon is hardly over, and the results of this election simply show how much work we still have ahead of us. The residents of Bristol Bay are acutely aware of the possible ramifications of the Pebble mine and the risks it poses to their very way of life. The vote in the region was overwhelmingly in favor of the initiative and polling shows a majority of Alaskan’s do not support the Pebble mine and have grave concerns over the damage it may inflict on one of our greatest treasures. This vote does not change the fact that putting a massive, acid-generating mine at the headwaters of the world’s largest wild sockeye fishery is a bad idea. Pebble is still the wrong mine in the wrong place.

Unfortunately foreign mining companies and their allies spent millions upon millions of dollars to muddy the issue with a variety of false statements, scaring and confusing voters with wild claims that the proposition would shut down all mines, and that it might even affect gold panners and people who use outboard engines. All of which is simply not true. It is also regrettable that the state and Governor Palin took it upon themselves to intercede in the public initiative process which we view as totally improper.

The clean water ballot measure, had it passed, would have protected existing mines while also protecting wild salmon and clean water from dangerous toxins produced by new large-scale acid-generating mines, such as Pebble. Our priority continues to be protecting all of Alaska’s renewable resources, our hunting and fishing heritage, whether commercial, sport or subsistence, so that future generations will have the same opportunities to enjoy the wild Alaska we all know and love. “This was only the first battle in what appears to be a very long war,” says Richard Jameson, president of the Renewable Resource Coalition. “We would ask those who wish to protect Alaska’s wild salmon to remain resolute, as will the RRC and its members.”

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#450319 - 08/29/08 11:18 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: seastrike]
parker Offline
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I think Rachel already beat you to it.

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#450322 - 08/29/08 11:29 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: parker]
Todd Offline
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This talk won't matter much...for several reasons...

1. Outside of the PNW, people don't give a rat's ass about environmental issues in the PNW. They don't care about the Pebble Mine, they don't care about fishing, and the only salmon they care about are the ones that end up on their plate when out to eat at restaurants...and they're happy with farmed Atlantic Salmon from Argentina.

2. Within the PNW, right wingers, even so-called "outdoorsmen", don't seem to mind voting over and over again for the very politicos that are owned, part and parcel, by the industries that seek to destroy their outdoorsy way of life.

It baffles me why they continue to do this...I mean, they know damn well they're doing it, and they do it anyway. They even go with the "Sportsmen for Bush!" bumper stickers and the like...and frankly, you can't get much more retarded than that.

Yeah, they're pro gun rights...but no one, and I mean NO ONE is looking to take away anyone's hunting rifles or shotguns...NO ONE...no matter what those lying sacks in the NRA tell you. There are no politicians running for any office of any consequence who have any interest whatsoever in doing that.

None.

What good is the right to carry an assault rifle into the taco shop on the corner going to do a "sportsman" when there's no wild areas, or game left to shoot?

None at all...that's what...but they still do it, and they know exactly what they're doing, and they do it anyway.

Now, if you want to impose your fundamentalist beliefs on the other 75% of the population who wants you to STFU, then by all means vote for them. If you support what BushCorp has been doing to our country and the world for the past seven years, then by all means, vote for McCain.

There are a host of reasons to support McCain, even if they are mainly a little whacked, IMHO.

That being said...anyone who claims they are voting Republican in order to improve their access to and enjoyment of hunting and fishing is either really, really stupid, or just has their head stuck so far in the sand all you can see is their ballet slippers.

Fish on...

Todd
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#450323 - 08/29/08 11:29 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: parker]
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Yeah I didn't understand that one either Parker.
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#450328 - 08/29/08 11:52 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: seastrike]
Irie Offline
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Loc: Olympia
Pat Robertson's been doing the happy dance all morning.

Slade Gorton came from a Commercial Fishing background, too.
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#450332 - 08/29/08 11:59 AM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Irie]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Irie
Pat Robertson's been doing the happy dance all morning.

Slade Gorton came from a Commercial Fishing background, too.


...and if those two endorsements don't make every sane person, or outdoorsman, want to run like hell from Palin, then nothing ever will.

Between Robertson the nutcase and Slade, the anti- everything outdoors except his commercial fishing family and the Mariners, this ought to wrap up all the dingbats and Washington to get on board.

Fish on...

Todd
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#450334 - 08/29/08 12:01 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: seastrike]
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Todd,

I'm still voting for Ron Paul, just in case you thought I'd jumped ship.

I'd have to agree with you on the fundementalist BS that the right wing spews, the homophobes (hypocritical homophobes at that) that want to limit people's rights to love who they want to, and the whole abortion issue in trying to tell a woman what she can do with her body, etc. That really turns me off of the ultra right wingers. The one thing you usually can depend upon a GOP'er to do is to unleash the full might and fury of our armed forces if we perceive a threat, sometimes correct (Grenada, Panama, Iraq #1) and other times not (Iraq #2).

On the flip side the turn that the democratic party has taken over the years really worries me as well. While I do like the general commitment to the environment, I think that there are many who have taken it a bit too far. 20 months to get a building permit is ridiculous, but getting set up for public is a breeze? Why on earth is is so hard to build something and contribute to society, yet so easy top suck off of the public teet? (My personal experience with this state.) They also pick and choose which rights they like to defend, kind of like the cafeteria right wing christians who don't buy into the whole "sodomy is sin" deal. Dems also have a general consensus towards big government, just look at our state.

Mr. Manbearpig himself is an absolute joke, super cereal, and those who follow with him are the same. The whole political correctness movement, in my opinion, comes from the left, and it is so bad that if you disagree with Obama you run the risk of being called a racist. There are examples of that here.

I am also concerned on their weak stance on using the military might of the US, like when Wild Bill sent some cruise missiles to some godforsaken territory instead of getting some troops on the grounds to kill Osama Bin Laden. He really could have saved us a lot of trouble, and headed off Iraq #2 had he done that.

For me no single party is 100% correct on all of the issues, so I guess it comes down to a choice between which rights are most important to me, as both sides are likely to trample on something near and dear to me.

We also do agree on the fact that GW is the true life version of Howdy Doody, and the puppet masters are his buddies in big industry.

Have a great weekend!
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#450337 - 08/29/08 12:06 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Dogfish]
Todd Offline
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Good post, Andy...not much to argue with there.

Fish on...

Todd
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#450346 - 08/29/08 01:47 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
Magicfly Offline
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Who else wants a hug, besides Todd? smile


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#450348 - 08/29/08 01:52 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Magicfly]
Todd Offline
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Think he'll dump his wife* for her?

Fish on...

Todd

*like he already did before
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#450353 - 08/29/08 02:09 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
Magicfly Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 607
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
Originally Posted By: Todd
Think he'll pump his wife* for her?

Fish on...

Todd

*like he already did before


There....fixed that typo for you..... wink

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#450354 - 08/29/08 02:23 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Magicfly]
Magicfly Offline
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Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
Well John?



smile

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#450355 - 08/29/08 02:23 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 03/17/99
Posts: 771
Loc: Everett, WA USA
Originally Posted By: Todd
Think he'll dump his wife* for her?

Fish on...

Todd

*like he already did before

I dobut it. Plain isn't worth $500,000,000.00 like Cindy McCain is plus she has a down syndrom baby. McCain left his first wife because she had been disfigured in an auto accident, I dobut he would like to have a down syndrom child.

Oh "HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN MCCAIN"


He is 72, yes seventy-two years old today. Do they still let him drive?
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#450362 - 08/29/08 02:42 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: stever in everett]
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Originally Posted By: stever in everett
He is 72, yes seventy-two years old today.


He has had 4 boughts with cancer.
He would be the oldest first-time elected president.
He's damn near dead.

Yet....

He's often complained that Obama is too young, and has NO experience.

Yet....

His VP is YOUNGER than Obama, and has only been a Governator for 1.5 years. Yeah, she'd be GREAT for this country when the old man dies off during his term. Just great.

rofl



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#450367 - 08/29/08 03:15 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: stever in everett]
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Originally Posted By: stever in everett


Oh "HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN MCCAIN"

He is 72, yes seventy-two years old today. Do they still let him drive?



How fitting he shares a birthday with Michael Jackson - two weird white dudes with housing issues!!! rofl rofl
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#450369 - 08/29/08 03:26 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Think he'll dump his wife* for her?

Fish on...

Todd

*like he already did before


So because she is young and reasonably attractive, she isn't suited for the job? Just good for pumping?
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#450373 - 08/29/08 04:01 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Dogfish]
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Interesting ... I hate politics and usually stay out of these ... I deal with enough on the fishing end to last about 20 normal lifetimes smile

A client early this summer predicted this would happen. Made sense for a bit ... but oh just wait until the scandal stuff that is brewing here hits the mass media market ... I was surprised with the choice ... figured the "fire-my-ex-brother-in-law or I'll-fire-you" drama would bury her as a choice.

Guess I know nothing about politics, I'll keep it that way!
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#450379 - 08/29/08 04:22 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Bob]
Magicfly Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
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Originally Posted By: Bob
Interesting ... I hate politics and usually stay out of these ...


I hear you Bob. I was the same way until the Liberals took over congress, and fuel prices more than doubled... doh

And the rest is history. smile

Mf
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#450382 - 08/29/08 04:27 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: stever in everett]
Sol Duc Offline
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 1308
Loc: Bellevue
Originally Posted By: stever in everett
Originally Posted By: Todd
Think he'll dump his wife* for her?

Fish on...

Todd

*like he already did before

I dobut it. Plain isn't worth $500,000,000.00 like Cindy McCain is plus she has a down syndrom baby. McCain left his first wife because she had been disfigured in an auto accident, I dobut he would like to have a down syndrom child.

Oh "HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN MCCAIN"


He is 72, yes seventy-two years old today. Do they still let him drive?


If you don't like MCCAIN fine...but to say something so un true about this mans character makes you look like one of those "angry" liberals!! The MCCAINS adopted this deformed child and gave her a happy home.

Bridget McCain, who the couple adopted from Bangladesh in 1993. Cindy McCain met Bridget, who was born with a cleft palate, on a trip to Mother Theresa's orphanage. Though reticent to discuss his family life, Senator McCain has said about Bridget, "She has enriched our lives. She's a wonderful child, a complete part of our family, and we love her."

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#450390 - 08/29/08 05:32 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
Todd Offline
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I agree...there's plenty of confirmed stories showing McSame's "character"...or more to the point, lack thereof.

Most notably, cheating on his wife with a much younger, and much richer woman...whom he eventually left his wife for and married.

That's some good ol' fashioned right wing "family values" for ya, right there.

Perhaps in a bid to let his ex-wife know that he's not just a total dick to her, he has a habit of calling his current wife a kunt, especially in front of people.

Now that's what I call a gentleman.

Sol Duc's right...let's stick to the truth about McSame's character...no need to make up things to show what an asshole he is.

Fish on...

Todd
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#450391 - 08/29/08 05:47 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Dogfish]
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
The one thing you usually can depend upon a GOP'er to do is to unleash the full might and fury of our armed forces if we perceive a threat, sometimes correct (Grenada, Panama, Iraq #1) and other times not (Iraq #2).






I'll take making a move with 3 out of 4 being acceptable even in hindsight over sitting on our hands and being wrong any day. H3ll, I'd even consider bragging about it.

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#450392 - 08/29/08 05:54 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Oregonian]
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If a wife acts like a kunt, then what is the harm in "calling them as you see them" ? If/when I act like a "dick", I'll admit it... call it honesty.

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#450393 - 08/29/08 05:56 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
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Todd, this cheating thing happened like 30 years ago, after he was pow for 5 years. Show me documented proof of calling his wife the c word, I'm pretty sure you don't have any or you would have posted it.

I was debunking the statement made about MCCAIN not accepting a child that has a disability or was not "normal".

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#450394 - 08/29/08 06:04 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Do your own Google search...there was already a whole thread about it a few weeks ago...I didn't feel the need to re-write it.

I know what you were talking about...I was agreeing with you, and pointing out that there's no need to make up stories about his mean and angry character...there are enough true ones to accomplish it.

Yeah, his cheating on his wife and dumping her for the younger and richer (and less defective) wife #2 was indeed 30 years ago...how long ago did it need to be to no longer be a total lack of integrity and family values?

If he did it again tomorrow, would it be OK? If he did it again tomorrow, would it not be OK, but would magically be OK again in ten years? Fifteen years?

There must be an amount of years where it magically becomes OK, since it's clearly not OK on the day he does it, but apparently you think it's OK now since it was 30 years ago.

At what point did it no longer point to a serious flaw in his "family values" character?

This is the kind of "my moral compass is black and white" when talking about the behaviors of others, but it's "completely relative" when talking about his own hypocrisy that is rampant among the fundamentalists.

Fish on...

Todd
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#450398 - 08/29/08 06:28 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
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Read it on the internet!

So it has to be true.

My god, all of this is so f'n stupid it's unreal.

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#450402 - 08/29/08 06:33 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Todd]
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Yeah, his cheating on his wife and dumping her for the younger and richer (and less defective) wife #2 was indeed 30 years ago...how long ago did it need to be to no longer be a total lack of integrity and family values?

I know im not the same person i was 30 years ago.


This is the kind of "my moral compass is black and white" when talking about the behaviors of others, but it's "completely relative" when talking about his own hypocrisy that is rampant among the fundamentalists.

How is BO moral compass these days? He is a absolute disgrace to stay in that church with that racist anti amercian garbage Wright spewed for 20 years.

Quit responding to me Im a slow typer and my back is killing me....:>)

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#450404 - 08/29/08 06:43 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Quote:
Quit responding to me Im a slow typer and my back is killing me....:>)


rofl

Yeah! Dammit, Todd! grin
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#450405 - 08/29/08 06:47 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Dan S.]
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Rusty,

You have to look at it like this.........you're getting all this entertainment at the cost of 0 American dollars.

Normally, you'd have to pay for entertainment like this. rofl
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#450406 - 08/29/08 06:48 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Dan S.]
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Hawks on at 7:00 channel 5. TFG :>)

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#450408 - 08/29/08 06:54 PM Re: McCain Picks Governer Palin from Alaska? [Re: Sol Duc]
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It's on in the other room...I might have to bust out the laptop just to keep your chiropractor in business, Sol Duc smile

I'm a different man than I was 30 years ago, too.










































'Course, I was only 8 years old 30 years ago. smile
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