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#457566 - 10/03/08 03:09 PM Obama's boy, Frank Raines
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I'm not done with this tool.

Take another look at the 2004 Excerpts from a hearing to investigate Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac illegal book keeping.

And look how cool under fire Obama's boy Frank Raines is while he lies through his teeth.

http://www.talk2rusty.com/notes.html

Mf
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#457571 - 10/03/08 03:39 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Magicfly]
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Now Fast forward......

On July 16, 2008, The Washington Post reported that Franklin Raines had "taken calls from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters." [19]. Also, in an editorial in August 27, 2008 titled "Tough Decision Coming", the Washington Post editorial staff wrote that "Two members of Mr. Obama's political circle, James A. Johnson and Franklin D. Raines, are former chief executives of Fannie Mae."[20]

This info and more can be found on Wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines#Raines_and_Obama

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#457585 - 10/03/08 04:15 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Magicfly]
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No body gives a schit how you feel-- about anything.
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#457609 - 10/03/08 05:44 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Irie]
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#457623 - 10/03/08 06:56 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Irie]
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Originally Posted By: Irie
No body gives a schit how you feel-- about anything.


lol...you insensitive little prick.... grin
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#457626 - 10/03/08 07:07 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Magicfly]
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Hey, Mf...I care about how you feel.

Google up how many FM/FM lobbyists are working for the two candidates right now...one is running McCain's economy plan, and several others are on his campaign team...if anyone ought to be strung and quartered for employing those lying, cheating, and stealing basturds, it oughta be the entire "Straight to Second Place Express".

Fish on...

Todd
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#457629 - 10/03/08 07:17 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Todd]
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Thanks Todd, I will....You're a class act. smile

Sensitive too. wink

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#457630 - 10/03/08 07:20 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Magicfly]
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Todd loves people.

You can tell by his posting style.

rofl
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#457632 - 10/03/08 07:40 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Dan S.]
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Jesus Loves You................

It's everyomne else who thinks you're an asshole.
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#457639 - 10/03/08 08:19 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
Jesus Loves You................

It's everyomne else who thinks you're an asshole.



Zzzzing.....rofl

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#457651 - 10/03/08 09:08 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: ChuckS]
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The only ones who don't like my posting style are the dumbass retarded uneducated illogical factless repub-bots who can't think for themselves, anyway. The only reason they don't like my posting style is that someone told them that they're not supposed to. Probably Rush or Hannity.

The other three or four of you like my style just fine.

Fish on...

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#457657 - 10/03/08 09:25 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Todd]
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Like I was saying........... rofl
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#457662 - 10/03/08 09:37 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Dan S.]
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Everyone on here likes your style, they just don't like you.
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#457663 - 10/03/08 09:38 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
The only ones who don't like my posting style are the dumbass retarded uneducated illogical factless repub-bots who can't think for themselves, anyway. The only reason they don't like my posting style is that someone told them that they're not supposed to. Probably Rush or Hannity.

The other three or four of you like my style just fine.

Fish on...

Todd


I like how ReTodd likes to insult a lot of people who buy his products. Thats a great business plan you have there.

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#457667 - 10/03/08 09:45 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: JoJo]
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So................you don't like his posting style? rofl
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#457672 - 10/03/08 09:59 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: JoJo]
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Originally Posted By: JoJo
Originally Posted By: Todd
The only ones who don't like my posting style are the dumbass retarded uneducated illogical factless repub-bots who can't think for themselves, anyway. The only reason they don't like my posting style is that someone told them that they're not supposed to. Probably Rush or Hannity.

The other three or four of you like my style just fine.

Fish on...

Todd


I like how ReTodd likes to insult a lot of people who buy his products. Thats a great business plan you have there.


rofl rofl

Now that's funny! Todd has the amazing ability to call someone, a dumb sob...and make them feel good about them self... smile

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#457677 - 10/03/08 10:20 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
The only ones who don't like my posting style are the dumbass retarded uneducated illogical factless repub-bots who can't think for themselves, anyway. The only reason they don't like my posting style is that someone told them that they're not supposed to. Probably Rush or Hannity.

The other three or four of you like my style just fine.

Fish on...

Todd


hey, I resemble that rofl

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#457684 - 10/03/08 10:59 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: ChuckS]
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JoJo, if you take anything on the politics forum seriously enough to alter your shopping habits, then I think you ought to consider going fishing more, and staying away from the internet...you clearly aren't enjoying it, and it's certainly not a place to be serious...

Fish on...

Todd
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#457688 - 10/03/08 11:12 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Todd]
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That's a chump move JoJo.

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#457741 - 10/04/08 11:04 AM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: LoweDown]
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Sounds like good honest advice that should be heeded to me. Maybe an opinion from Joe?
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#457752 - 10/04/08 12:08 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Slab Happy]
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If I had to guess, I'd say that's because you disagree with Todd. I'm pretty sure Joe knew him before they went into business together....

This is the NON-FISHING part of the forum, his business shouldn't even be brought up in here, and the fact that it was just proves that some of you aren't capable of winning an argument based on facts.

Why doesn't everyone here tell us what company they work for, so that we can choose whether or not to do business with THEM based on their political views or posting tones.....? Yeah. That's what I thought.

My name is Bret Lowe, I am co-owner/operator of Westside Guide Service, in case any of you would like to avoid doing business with me based on the fact that I think JoJo is a chump. grin

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#457754 - 10/04/08 12:13 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: LoweDown]
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It is just a personal thing, and I'm sure I know where it emanates from.

It is a chump move, one that borders more on being childish than anything else.

Note: Not only do I tell people that they ought not have opinions, but every time you see that Rvrfshr banner pop up on top of this page, that's my business dollars subsidizing your ability to come on here and give them.

This thread has gone from stupid to downright ridiculous.

Fish on...

Todd
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#457755 - 10/04/08 12:13 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: LoweDown]
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I'd buy from RVFSHR in a heartbeat, but I already have more of their stuff than I'll likely use, they don't sell much fly gear....................yet.

But given Jojo's post, I'm going to put in an order over the weekend. grin

See JoJo, you're good for business...................... rofl
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#457770 - 10/04/08 12:48 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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Good stuff to keep in mind. I guess I also needed to be reminded that the dark side is just that. A lot of the political threads piss me off. I really don't like it when dudes call each other names on here but I guess it's the dark side and that's the way it is.
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#457771 - 10/04/08 12:53 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
JoJo, you're good for business...................... rofl


Another Zzzing....rofl

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#457773 - 10/04/08 12:57 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: seastrike]
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Most of the regular posters here don't get uptight about anything that's posted here. It's an internet BB, I mean, who cares about three quarters of what is posted on internet forums ? If you are ultra sensistive, behooves you to stay away.

JoJo got his vag all hurt about some percieved slight, and so now he's all sandy inside.

So what.

Can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Seastrike seems to get it, it's not called 'The Dark Side' because everyone's all about politeness here.
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#457776 - 10/04/08 01:16 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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I should also remind myself that I throw grenades at Blades when I can so I am not without blame. I think I've thrown a few at Irie over the years as well. I need to work on that as he seems pretty cool most of the time.

Ok I'm drifting a river tomorrow. Regardless of outcome I will feel better.
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#457777 - 10/04/08 01:19 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: seastrike]
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Nobody holds throwing a grenade at gaydes against you Dave..................

Well maybe gaydes....................but nobody else does.


Good Luck tomorrow, should be a good day to float..................
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#457778 - 10/04/08 01:30 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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Hope so. Fishing the Sky. Hoping the freshet brings in some good stuff.
Another dude just called and invited me on a walk in Letty Potter trip. He said it's not pretty but pretty productive. I had to say I already have plans.
Talked with Addicted a few times this weekend and he said things are pretty punched out that way.
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#457784 - 10/04/08 01:49 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: seastrike]
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I might try and sneak out tomorrow, maybe toss some bugs up that way, but I'll be banking it.
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#457788 - 10/04/08 01:58 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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I will say hi if in the same stretch John. We are doing Sultan to BH.
I'll be doing the exact opposite of you......sandshrimp on jigs or rvrfshr hardware. Maybe I'll even try one of those Dick Nites.
Also just received a cool email. Two dads and two driftboats on a river south of me next Friday on kids day off from school. Should be interesting with the boy and the puppy in the boat and me rowing. The boy has not done a drift yet but has seen some bank action.
I've skunked the boy on the last three salt trips so need to get him into some fish or I fear he will lose interest.
He is into the idea.
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#457791 - 10/04/08 02:17 PM Re: Obama's boy, Frank Raines [Re: seastrike]
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Then you'll see me if I can sneak out there.

I figure for a not too early start down below, and if the water doesn't get too big, prowling the bank above BH.

In the EARLY Am, I'll be on the South Fork poking around up there.
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