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#457647 - 10/04/08 12:01 AM a question about big blacktails
larryb Offline
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could it be possible that some of the big bucks they are talking about in the other thread have some mule deer in their back ground. my father use to tell me about the state turning loose several mule deer bucks in what is now he capital forest out side of of mccleary. ever once in a while i still see deer there that seem to have mule deer type ears. makes me wonder if they did the same in other areas.
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#457671 - 10/04/08 12:57 AM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: larryb]
cupo Offline
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Registered: 06/18/03
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Why do people have such a hard time believing that big blacktails exist?

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#457715 - 10/04/08 11:16 AM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: cupo]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 5539
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Blacktail are a subspecies of mule deer. They should look somewhat like them. Body size and antler size are heavily influenced by food and minerals.

The desert mulies I have seen are about the same size as WA blacktails.

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#457728 - 10/04/08 12:09 PM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: Carcassman]
Sol Offline
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Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 7710
Loc: Poulsbo
Larry: Blacktail and mule deer cross-breed where their range overlaps up and down the Cascade Range. When bloodline is questionable they are scored as mule deer.

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#457764 - 10/04/08 03:24 PM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: Carcassman]
j 7 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/07
Posts: 1422
Loc: Your monitor
Originally Posted By: Carcassman
Blacktail are a subspecies of mule deer. They should look somewhat like them.


That is what I always have been told and read for years. There is actualy some controversy over it now though. Some are now saying it is the other way around and Mule deer are a subspecies of the Blacktail. There is some information and names on the blacktailcountry website regarding this switch. Pretty long read but real informative.
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#457769 - 10/04/08 03:47 PM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: j 7]
Carcassman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 5539
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
From a classification standpoint, blacktail are considered a subspecies of mule deer.

From a genetic standpoint, it may be that mule deer are the offspring of a blacktail/whitetial cross. The male was the blacktail, the mother whitetail. At least according to current science.

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#457802 - 10/04/08 06:06 PM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: Carcassman]
On The Hook Offline
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Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 277
Loc: Post Falls, Idaho
What does it matter? If it is "HUGE" then be happy regardless of species. With todays rules and regs in this state be happy to see let alone get a good deer.
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#457874 - 10/05/08 01:49 PM Re: a question about big blacktails [Re: On The Hook]
cupo Offline
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Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 1060
Loc: north sound
From what I've seen, most people consider a buck to be a cross if it's bigger than the ones they've killed.

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