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#457919 - 10/05/08 06:15 PM The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street
ACT Offline
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Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 219
Loc: Port Townsend, WA
Wonder why this news is not in the papers. Snopes does not give any information on this.

Be sure to read the "where they are now"!!

Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have brought down Wall Street.

Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae's accounting activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, " Raines, who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that "mistakes were made" and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its man! agreement in the wake of findings that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years." Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.

Raines left with a "golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear. http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ The Government noted, "The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner." These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.

Tim Howard - was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard "was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a "stable pattern of earnings" at Fannie. In everyday English - he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, "Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,"

On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.

Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!

Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million." Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.

Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor

TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama

JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE - THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street ?

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#457927 - 10/05/08 07:06 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: ACT]
Dan S. Online   content
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Hey jackass......you know what brought down Wall Street..........f*ckwads trying to blame it all on the other party while the blood drips from their own party's hands.

If you're voting for McCain, you should shut your suckhole about the bailout. If you're voting for Obama, you should shut your suckhole about the bailout.

Ron Paul 2008
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#457932 - 10/05/08 07:32 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Dan S.]
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Registered: 01/24/07
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Dan,Dan try to keep a civil tongue in your head. We all know Clinton did it...then he split the money with Raines to help finance The Hildabeast's campaign
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#457934 - 10/05/08 07:34 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Hankster]
Kanektok Kid Online   sleepy
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Posts: 4418
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Dan gets a bit testy when the Huskies loose by ..................never mind, I want to live................ grin
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#457939 - 10/05/08 07:40 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Kanektok Kid]
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Registered: 01/24/07
Posts: 829
Loc: San Francisco,CA
If that's what got his strap in a wad he must have gotten another dose of those very same testies today during the Fawks game. I watched it until they mercifully yanked it. Only saw two major areas of concern for that team:

1. Offense
2. Defense

Once they get those two little wrinkles ironed out they should be just fine.
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#457946 - 10/05/08 08:01 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Hankster]
ACT Offline
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Registered: 11/25/02
Posts: 219
Loc: Port Townsend, WA
What's the Matter Dan S, you can't comprehend the truth. By the language in your post you show that you are very unstable are you by-polar? You had better take your Meds to calm yourself down before you have an heart attack.

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#457948 - 10/05/08 08:08 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: ACT]
goharley Offline
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Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 2094
Loc: U.S. Army
Originally Posted By: ACT
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street ?


Guess you're not supporting that McCain/Rick Davis ticket, eh?

By the way, check here, you lying bastard.

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#457949 - 10/05/08 08:09 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: ACT]
Dan S. Online   content
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 5544
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
You wouldn't know the truth if it was beating lumps into your skull.

And as far as the rest, go f*ck yourself.
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Bon Scott, TNT

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#457955 - 10/05/08 08:48 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Dan S.]
Magicfly Offline
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 752
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
You better have some thick skin if you're going to bring up Obama's boy Frank Raines.... grin

Just finished watching the Husky game that I had recorded from yesterday... I agree with KK... chain

Interesting yesterday a buddy and myself took a road trip to Ellensburg to catch the Central Wildcats game against Dixie...J.R. Hasty had a pretty good game.

Mf


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#457959 - 10/05/08 09:00 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Magicfly]
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Posts: 2094
Loc: U.S. Army
You don't need thick skin, just facts.

Like Keating Five facts and Alaska Independence Party facts.

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#457960 - 10/05/08 09:03 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: goharley]
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Originally Posted By: goharley
You don't need thick skin, just facts.


rofl

Mf
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#457972 - 10/05/08 11:42 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Magicfly]
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Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 880
Loc: north sound
*cough* Phil Gramm *cough*

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#458023 - 10/06/08 10:57 AM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: cupo]
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#458029 - 10/06/08 11:36 AM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Registered: 11/05/00
Posts: 930
Loc: Seattle
Wall St is still going down and hard today, who do we blame it on now? The "RESCUE" is in place, all should be perfect in the world but alas its far from it. Just as long as Paulsons Wall Street Banker buddies get their asses bailed out, that should be enough to restore home values in the Hamptons...good place to start for main street Joe...cheers
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#458033 - 10/06/08 12:01 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Dan S.]
ChuckS Offline
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Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 1234
Loc: Dawg Pound
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
You wouldn't know the truth if it was beating lumps into your skull.

And as far as the rest, go f*ck yourself.


Dan - we've got to work on your communication skills so that you are more direct to the point. rofl

the rest of ya ... what Dan said rofl

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#458049 - 10/06/08 12:52 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: ChuckS]
Dan S. Online   content
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 5544
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I was just seeing if these "attack ads" are as effective as they say. grin
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#458097 - 10/06/08 06:25 PM Re: The Three Men Who Took Down Wall Street [Re: Dan S.]
ChuckS Offline
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Registered: 02/19/03
Posts: 1234
Loc: Dawg Pound
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
I was just seeing if these "attack ads" are as effective as they say. grin


They are great for that quick "shock and awe" impact. Its the long lasting images that leave the bigger impressions though rofl

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