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#463122 - 10/28/08 11:04 AM Stevens Guilty
Irie Offline
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If he was from somewhere beside Alaska his career would be over. Now he joins his fellow disgraced GOP colleagues Hastert, Cunningham, Ney, & DeLay in the far more lucrative business of lobbying those Senators that haven't been caught yet.
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Sen. Ted Stevens found guilty in corruption case
By MATT APUZZO and JESSE J. HOLLAND
WASHINGTON (AP) — Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens was convicted of seven corruption charges Monday in a trial that threatened to end the 40-year career of Alaska's political patriarch in disgrace.


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#463123 - 10/28/08 11:18 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Irie]
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Aw the temptations of being in office too long.

Have you seen the dirty diaper ad, Irie? Shows a baby being passed around from person to person, then crawling across the floor to some new unsuspecting person who picks up the baby and soon recognizes the stench and passes along the stink to the next person and so on and so on. It refers to the 39 years our Gov touts....but could refer to countless others in politics as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, the closing line is..."When something's been around this long, it's time for a change."

Works for me. smile
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#463125 - 10/28/08 11:25 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ParaLeaks]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
Aw the temptations of being in office too long.

Have you seen the dirty diaper ad, Irie? Shows a baby being passed around from person to person, then crawling across the floor to some new unsuspecting person who picks up the baby and soon recognizes the stench and passes along the stink to the next person and so on and so on. It refers to the 39 years our Gov touts....but could refer to countless others in politics as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, the closing line is..."When something's been around this long, it's time for a change."

Works for me. smile


Sorry I don't watch much TV except the weather, and even that I've found to be dubious & unreliable. When NPR starts a channel I might check it out. PBS has too much children's programming and Comcast doesn't carry ITN World News.

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#463127 - 10/28/08 11:36 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Irie]
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So, I have long wondered, will they change the name to “Indicted felon International Airport"?

Pretty hard to leave the name as is when the namesake has been convicted of seven felonies.
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#463128 - 10/28/08 11:37 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Irie]
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Stevens guilty---DUH
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#463132 - 10/28/08 11:45 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
7 felonies..................he can't vote this year........................Palin can't decide if she's going to vote for him still...................Don Young is going to lose the AK-AL seat......................

Alaska gettin' all mavericky..............................


Cant vote as a citizen yet can cast a vote on the senate floor...


Mavericky...rofl

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#463135 - 10/28/08 12:01 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid

Alaska gettin' all mavericky..............................


rofl
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#463289 - 10/28/08 11:32 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Todd]
laterun Offline
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He says he is still running, what are the odds he will win?

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#463290 - 10/28/08 11:37 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: laterun]
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In Alaska? Pretty damn good.
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#463299 - 10/28/08 11:56 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: goharley]
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What are the odds if he wins that his fellow Senators won't kick him to the curb the day his appeals end?

They can do that, you know...

Fish on...

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#463306 - 10/29/08 12:27 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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It's always sad to see a distinguished senior Senator, with so many years of faithful service faultier, it's really a shame, he was such a good Ecoterrorist.

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#463308 - 10/29/08 12:29 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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I think that the Republican Party ought to strongly consider not having him run for anything...if he wins, he'll be in the Senate for as long as his appeals hold out...call it a year.

If his appeals don't go through...which is what I'd wager is going to happen...then the Senate will kick him out, and it will be embarrassing as hell for him and the Party.

If he follows his Republican Party's leadership example, however, he'll just live in an alter-reality, and keep on denying everything until the whole house of cards tumbles down...which is what I'd expect him to do, easily.

What do the Republicans here think he ought to do? He's likely to win a Senate seat, but he's likely to have it yanked out from under him in a year to 18 months after he does...is that OK with you?

Fish on...

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#463316 - 10/29/08 12:44 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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She's not going anywhere near the White House...anyone who thinks that is a good idea has got to be fuckin crazy.

It's not just experience that she's lacking...it's integrity, honesty, a grasp of complex issues, and frankly an education about most everything involving government...some of that she could gain over the next six years, but most of it will never be there, and I still think that the Repubs are going to throw her under the bus come Nov. 5th, anyway.

Fish on...

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#463322 - 10/29/08 01:08 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Yeah, that would have worked out peachy.


Where do you republicans get these crystal balls that allow you to so clearly see events that haven't happened............like Biden's plan that would have failed, or that 'things would have been so much worse under Gore/Kerry/insert name here' than Bush?

Is everything in Iraq peachy without the partition?
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#463333 - 10/29/08 01:50 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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The entire point of the surge was to create space for a political solution...said political solution is nowhere in sight, so the point of the surge failed.

If we just wanted to end the violence without a political solution, we should just turn the whole region into glass...now that would be a successful end to violence without any regard for a political solution, and would at least be honest...so far we're claiming that we're after a political solution, while touting an escalation that did nothing for a political solution.

Either way, that's a total aside to the conversation we're having, which is what the Republican Party will be doing now in Alaska with their likely Senator to be clapped in irons as soon as his appeals are over...does anyone think that this is a good idea?

Fish on...

Todd
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#463344 - 10/29/08 02:52 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
She is far too tough to be thrown under anybody's bus. She has weathered the scorn of all the elites and keeps drawing the crowds of Middle America by the score. As much as you despise her and all she stands for you have failed to see her appeal beyond the metroplitan areas. She even has the grudging respect of those in Alaska that SHE threw under the bus and Lorne Michaels has even said that he sees how well she connects with people.

Don't sell her too short.



As far as fuggin crazy goes.....there's Obama.



Do you even OWN fishing gear?

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#463364 - 10/29/08 09:23 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
She is far too tough to be thrown under anybody's bus. She has weathered the scorn of all the elites and keeps drawing the crowds of Middle America by the score. As much as you despise her and all she stands for you have failed to see her appeal beyond the metropolitan areas. She even has the grudging respect of those in Alaska that SHE threw under the bus and Lorne Michaels has even said that he sees how well she connects with people.

Don't sell her too short.



As far as fuggin crazy goes.....there's Obama.



Hankster, in regards to her drawing the crowds of Middle America, I am reminded of the old Barnum quote, "Nobody ever went broke overestimating the bad taste of the American public." Of course, that applies to the eventual winner of the election, whomever that may be.
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#463390 - 10/29/08 11:30 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: eddie]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Imagine, if you will, how it would be right now if we had pulled everyone out before the surge that apparently didn't work.


Operative word?

Imagine.

That's all you're doing.
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#463393 - 10/29/08 11:43 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Dan S.]
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Since it seems that the people of Alaska don't want the democratic option, I would suggest that Stevens stay in the race until after he is elected then immediately step down. It's tough to swallow the cost of an additional election, but 6 years of a candidate you disagree with may be harder. For Alaska, with all the federal land and expenses, the choice of a senator may have more ramifications then it does for us. In fact, I think he should promise to resign if elected, but encourage people to still vote the party. I know you don't agree with him or the republicans Todd, but the people of Alaska do. If they don't vote for him, they are forced to elect the opposition. Maybe its self deserving since this was looming, but the way the political system works, it would have been near impossible to get him off the ticket. If he tries to stay in office, I would hope the republicans would lead the vote to toss him out on the first day of the session.

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#463396 - 10/29/08 11:48 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Krijack]
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It seems to me that the best thing to do would be to drop out now, and get another Republican in there asap...Alaska will elect him/her, and the problem is solved.

Fish on...

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#463413 - 10/29/08 12:21 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Irie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Never been fishing in my life.


Then kindly GTFO of this fishing website. You have no business being here.


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#463417 - 10/29/08 12:28 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Irie]
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What am I missing AuntyM. The senate is a 6 year term. A pardon may be coming, but the democratic run congress will toss him anyway, which they should do regardless. Todd, with the election on Tuesday, many ballots have been cast and its unlikely a new candidate could even be put on the ballot. Even more unlikely that a new ballot could be printed. SInce he insists on running my guess is he will lose or be tossed out. Win and get tossed out and more people will be pissed off at the republicans. Lose or withdraw and the democrats get what they want. The party has one choice if they want to keep that seat in the future.

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#463425 - 10/29/08 12:35 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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Yeah, I think you're right about the timing of it...it's too late to get someone else in there, and the only hope the Repubs have of keeping the seat is getting him elected, and then he either wins his appeal (very unlikely), or gets tossed on his ear by his fellow Senators (very likely) and Alaska holds a special election and probably just installs another one just like him...mebbe Palin will run for the Senate seat?

Sheesh...as if Alaska isn't a laughing stock this fall already...

Fish on...

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#463438 - 10/29/08 12:55 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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This guy could have been hit on so many things. He has been double dealing for years. He is a piece of shiat and wont even step down now. One more reason for term limits. Seems the amount of corrup increased expon with each term served. I hope he gets kicked out on his wrinkled old a$$ and finds someone in fed prison to massage the tender cheek he lands on.
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#463447 - 10/29/08 01:35 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: docspud]
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I like pie!
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#463453 - 10/29/08 02:02 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Dogfish]
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
I like pie!


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#463460 - 10/29/08 03:13 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: fish4brains]
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The pardon issue may be moot as I don't believe that Stevens will be sentenced until after the new Prez is in office. It is not common to pardon someone until after they have been sentenced, but with the moral compass of the current Admin, I expect anything.
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#463469 - 10/29/08 03:39 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: eddie]
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....and Wild Bill had a moral compass? Clinton pardoned 16 terrorists (FALN) or more correctly commuted their sentences, pardonned Dan Rostenkowski and Mel Reynolds, both of whom were (D) Congressmen convicted of crimes involved fraud and worse, among others.

Give me an F'n break before you go spouting off on the misuse of pardons. Remember also that Hitlery's brother accepted over $500,000 from some of the folks who were granted pardons, and then gave some of it back once it became public knowledge.

The whole lot of them are crooks, so before you get holier than thou, try swinging a dead cat in a small room packed with politicians. It won't be hard to hit someone dirty.

Need a cat? Got one for you.
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#463502 - 10/29/08 05:42 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Typical right wing "straight from the talking points" blather...

1. When accused, deny it.

2. When busted, blame someone else.

3. When convicted, tell everyone how the other guy does it, too.

4. Whenever possible, try to get the word "Clinton" in at least twice per paragraph.

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#463506 - 10/29/08 05:48 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
Dogfish Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
According to the U.S. Senate Web site, only four sitting senators have been convicted of crimes. Three of them resigned before they could be expelled; a fourth died first.


How about Representatives in the House?

By the way, I said they are all crooks. Dems and GOP'ers.

I'm just trying to keep everybody honest. Then again, we are dealing with politicians, so that's a tall order.
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#463507 - 10/29/08 05:51 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: Dogfish]
Dogfish Offline
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What was it that Bill said???

"I did not have sex with ....."
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#463511 - 10/29/08 06:09 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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What did you expect Marsha? Todd and KK posted here. wink

I truly hope Ted gets to serve some prison time. An example needs to be made of him, and others who use office for personal gain.

Damned pigs at a trough.
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#463530 - 10/29/08 06:48 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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Mission Accomplished................... rofl

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#463539 - 10/29/08 07:03 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: freespool



Mission Accomplished................... rofl
Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
+1


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#463623 - 10/29/08 10:58 PM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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You know your sig line is about LSD, right?

(no, not the Twain one)


...you DO live in San Fran, right?
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#463715 - 10/30/08 09:49 AM Re: Stevens Guilty [Re: ]
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Don't call me Shirley.
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