#463122 - 10/28/08 11:04 AM
Stevens Guilty
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If he was from somewhere beside Alaska his career would be over. Now he joins his fellow disgraced GOP colleagues Hastert, Cunningham, Ney, & DeLay in the far more lucrative business of lobbying those Senators that haven't been caught yet. LINK Sen. Ted Stevens found guilty in corruption case By MATT APUZZO and JESSE J. HOLLAND WASHINGTON (AP) — Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens was convicted of seven corruption charges Monday in a trial that threatened to end the 40-year career of Alaska's political patriarch in disgrace.
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#463123 - 10/28/08 11:18 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
[Re: Irie]
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Aw the temptations of being in office too long. Have you seen the dirty diaper ad, Irie? Shows a baby being passed around from person to person, then crawling across the floor to some new unsuspecting person who picks up the baby and soon recognizes the stench and passes along the stink to the next person and so on and so on. It refers to the 39 years our Gov touts....but could refer to countless others in politics as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, the closing line is..."When something's been around this long, it's time for a change." Works for me. 
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#463125 - 10/28/08 11:25 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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River Nutrients
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Aw the temptations of being in office too long. Have you seen the dirty diaper ad, Irie? Shows a baby being passed around from person to person, then crawling across the floor to some new unsuspecting person who picks up the baby and soon recognizes the stench and passes along the stink to the next person and so on and so on. It refers to the 39 years our Gov touts....but could refer to countless others in politics as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, the closing line is..."When something's been around this long, it's time for a change." Works for me. Sorry I don't watch much TV except the weather, and even that I've found to be dubious & unreliable. When NPR starts a channel I might check it out. PBS has too much children's programming and Comcast doesn't carry ITN World News.
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#463127 - 10/28/08 11:36 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
[Re: Irie]
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Reverend Tarpones
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So, I have long wondered, will they change the name to “Indicted felon International Airport"?
Pretty hard to leave the name as is when the namesake has been convicted of seven felonies.
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#463128 - 10/28/08 11:37 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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Kitsap's Crankiest Contractor
Registered: 11/24/03
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Stevens guilty---DUH
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#463132 - 10/28/08 11:45 AM
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7 felonies..................he can't vote this year........................Palin can't decide if she's going to vote for him still...................Don Young is going to lose the AK-AL seat......................
Alaska gettin' all mavericky.............................. Cant vote as a citizen yet can cast a vote on the senate floor... Mavericky... 
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#463289 - 10/28/08 11:32 PM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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Registered: 10/09/04
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He says he is still running, what are the odds he will win?
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#463290 - 10/28/08 11:37 PM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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In Alaska? Pretty damn good.
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#463299 - 10/28/08 11:56 PM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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What are the odds if he wins that his fellow Senators won't kick him to the curb the day his appeals end?
They can do that, you know...
Fish on...
Todd
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#463306 - 10/29/08 12:27 AM
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It's always sad to see a distinguished senior Senator, with so many years of faithful service faultier, it's really a shame, he was such a good Ecoterrorist.
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#463308 - 10/29/08 12:29 AM
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Dick Nipples
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I think that the Republican Party ought to strongly consider not having him run for anything...if he wins, he'll be in the Senate for as long as his appeals hold out...call it a year.
If his appeals don't go through...which is what I'd wager is going to happen...then the Senate will kick him out, and it will be embarrassing as hell for him and the Party.
If he follows his Republican Party's leadership example, however, he'll just live in an alter-reality, and keep on denying everything until the whole house of cards tumbles down...which is what I'd expect him to do, easily.
What do the Republicans here think he ought to do? He's likely to win a Senate seat, but he's likely to have it yanked out from under him in a year to 18 months after he does...is that OK with you?
Fish on...
Todd
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#463316 - 10/29/08 12:44 AM
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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She's not going anywhere near the White House...anyone who thinks that is a good idea has got to be fuckin crazy.
It's not just experience that she's lacking...it's integrity, honesty, a grasp of complex issues, and frankly an education about most everything involving government...some of that she could gain over the next six years, but most of it will never be there, and I still think that the Repubs are going to throw her under the bus come Nov. 5th, anyway.
Fish on...
Todd
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#463322 - 10/29/08 01:08 AM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Yeah, that would have worked out peachy. Where do you republicans get these crystal balls that allow you to so clearly see events that haven't happened............like Biden's plan that would have failed, or that 'things would have been so much worse under Gore/Kerry/insert name here' than Bush? Is everything in Iraq peachy without the partition?
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#463333 - 10/29/08 01:50 AM
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Dick Nipples
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The entire point of the surge was to create space for a political solution...said political solution is nowhere in sight, so the point of the surge failed.
If we just wanted to end the violence without a political solution, we should just turn the whole region into glass...now that would be a successful end to violence without any regard for a political solution, and would at least be honest...so far we're claiming that we're after a political solution, while touting an escalation that did nothing for a political solution.
Either way, that's a total aside to the conversation we're having, which is what the Republican Party will be doing now in Alaska with their likely Senator to be clapped in irons as soon as his appeals are over...does anyone think that this is a good idea?
Fish on...
Todd
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#463344 - 10/29/08 02:52 AM
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She is far too tough to be thrown under anybody's bus. She has weathered the scorn of all the elites and keeps drawing the crowds of Middle America by the score. As much as you despise her and all she stands for you have failed to see her appeal beyond the metroplitan areas. She even has the grudging respect of those in Alaska that SHE threw under the bus and Lorne Michaels has even said that he sees how well she connects with people.
Don't sell her too short.
As far as fuggin crazy goes.....there's Obama.
Do you even OWN fishing gear?
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#463364 - 10/29/08 09:23 AM
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She is far too tough to be thrown under anybody's bus. She has weathered the scorn of all the elites and keeps drawing the crowds of Middle America by the score. As much as you despise her and all she stands for you have failed to see her appeal beyond the metropolitan areas. She even has the grudging respect of those in Alaska that SHE threw under the bus and Lorne Michaels has even said that he sees how well she connects with people.
Don't sell her too short.
As far as fuggin crazy goes.....there's Obama.
Hankster, in regards to her drawing the crowds of Middle America, I am reminded of the old Barnum quote, "Nobody ever went broke overestimating the bad taste of the American public." Of course, that applies to the eventual winner of the election, whomever that may be.
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#463390 - 10/29/08 11:30 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
[Re: eddie]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
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Imagine, if you will, how it would be right now if we had pulled everyone out before the surge that apparently didn't work.
Operative word? Imagine. That's all you're doing.
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#463393 - 10/29/08 11:43 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/03/06
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Loc: Tacoma
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Since it seems that the people of Alaska don't want the democratic option, I would suggest that Stevens stay in the race until after he is elected then immediately step down. It's tough to swallow the cost of an additional election, but 6 years of a candidate you disagree with may be harder. For Alaska, with all the federal land and expenses, the choice of a senator may have more ramifications then it does for us. In fact, I think he should promise to resign if elected, but encourage people to still vote the party. I know you don't agree with him or the republicans Todd, but the people of Alaska do. If they don't vote for him, they are forced to elect the opposition. Maybe its self deserving since this was looming, but the way the political system works, it would have been near impossible to get him off the ticket. If he tries to stay in office, I would hope the republicans would lead the vote to toss him out on the first day of the session.
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#463396 - 10/29/08 11:48 AM
Re: Stevens Guilty
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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It seems to me that the best thing to do would be to drop out now, and get another Republican in there asap...Alaska will elect him/her, and the problem is solved.
Fish on...
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