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#479397 - 01/12/09 11:26 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Vidiotic]
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So instead of courage, it's duty. That's a plausible argument. I also think it plausible that one must possess the courage to perform one's duty.
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#480167 - 01/17/09 12:26 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: goharley]
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#480187 - 01/17/09 04:44 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum

fixed it

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#480391 - 01/18/09 11:30 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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Props to BWP and Aunty. I think you're on to something there. We better send this memo to Israel / Gaza straight away.

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#480627 - 01/19/09 09:36 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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agree

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#480661 - 01/19/09 10:44 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
...the Palestinians will move in and turn Israel into a dunghole.
That should prove to be an easy day's work.
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#480671 - 01/19/09 10:54 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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rofl
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#480780 - 01/20/09 02:36 AM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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http://www.rethinkingschools.org/just_fun/games/mapgame.html

Click on this one and have an educational moment. .. . .


Edited by FishRanger (01/20/09 02:37 AM)
Edit Reason: link went hot
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#480815 - 01/20/09 11:17 AM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: FishRanger]
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The sentiments of many, including myself are expressed in this clip.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/536.html
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#480973 - 01/20/09 06:11 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: FishRanger]
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Originally Posted By: FishRanger
http://www.rethinkingschools.org/just_fun/games/mapgame.html

Click on this one and have an educational moment. .. . .


That was fun!

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#482520 - 01/26/09 11:04 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Salmo g.]
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Amazing enough this is from our media. Finally a better look at the problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4752349n
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#483538 - 01/30/09 12:00 AM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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CBS "60 Minutes" -

CBS They are getting a lot of "heat" from the vocal minority who support Israel's brutal and counterproductive actions. It is important that those who value peace with justice in the region make the effort to support balanced media coverage. Such programs are very rarely seen on American main media. The Elephant taking a dump in the salad bowl as usual and silence at the dinner table. woot

Got the following from J Street.

This past Sunday, 60 Minutes aired a powerful and thoughtful report on the danger that Israeli settlements pose to the chances for Israeli-Palestinian peace. If you haven't watched the segment, it is must-see journalism. Watch it here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4752349n

CBS They are getting a lot of "heat" from the vocal minority who support Israel's brutal and counterproductive actions. It is important that those who value peace with justice in the region make the effort to support balanced media coverage. Such programs are very rarely seen on American main media.


All week long, 60 Minutes' Bob Simon has been under attack for supposed "anti-Israel bias." CAMERA (the Orwellian-named Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) alerted their activist network - flooding the 60 Minutes' offices and their advertisers with angry phone calls charging media bias. [1] Jewish community leader Abe Foxman fired off a letter calling the piece a "hatchet job on Israel." [2]

Journalists - as well as rabbis, professors and elected officials - know that if they raise questions about what Israel does - they'll often get attacked as anti-Israel. It's one way the forces of the status quo constrain debate and discussion on what's really best for Israel and the United States.

It's time for a reporter like Bob Simon to know that those of us with balanced views value balanced reporting - and we know how to write letters too! If he's getting an earful from CAMERA and others, then the pro-Israel, pro-peace movement should be showing him support.

Click here to view the segment and send Bob Simon a note of support for his accurate and thoughtful report on Israeli settlements and the occupation.

We hear plenty from American media about the threats that Israel faces from terrorism, rockets, and a nuclear Iran.

While those threats are real and should be covered, Americans also need to hear about another threat that is just as real: that time is running out for a two-state solution with the Palestinians in part due to Israeli settlements and the occupation of the West Bank. Without a two-state solution soon through assertive American diplomacy, Israel's future as a Jewish, democratic homeland is at risk.

During Sunday's 60 Minutes segment, anchor Bob Simon interviewed pro-settlement activist Daniella Weiss who readily admitted that she thinks "settlements prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state in the land of Israel. This is the goal. And this is the reality."

Simon also restated what Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has been saying for years [3] about what would happen if the two-state solution peace process falls apart.

"Demographers predict that within ten years Arabs will outnumber Jews in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. Without a separate Palestinian state the Israelis would have three options, none of them good. They could try ethnic cleansing, drive the Palestinians out of the West Bank, or they could give the Palestinians the vote. That would be the democratic option but it would mean the end of the Jewish state. Or they could try apartheid - have the minority Israelis rule the majority Palestinians, but apartheid regimes don't have a very long life."

Simon also interviewed Israeli Foreign Minister and Israel's chief negotiator with the Palestinians Tzipi Livni who said that evacuating the settlers in the West Bank is "not going to be easy. But this is the only solution."

But groups like CAMERA are opposed to mainstream media reporting that Israeli extremists, in addition to Palestinian extremists, undermine efforts to achieve a two-state solution. CAMERA resorts to claims of anti-Israel bias - when the reality is that Israeli extremists on the West Bank make real peace and security for Israel and the Palestinians more difficult to achieve.

We can't let fringe groups like CAMERA define what it means to be pro-Israel through intimidation and fear tactics.

Bob Simon should receive support from the pro-Israel, pro-peace movement for his accurate and thoughtful assessment of the threat that Israeli settlements pose to the two-state solution peace process.

Thanks for all you do.

- Isaac

Isaac Luria
Online Director
J Street
January 29, 2009



Edited by John Lee Hookum (01/30/09 12:14 AM)
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#483586 - 01/30/09 08:38 AM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Every news organization thinks and claims they are balanced in their reporting.
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