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#477758 - 01/05/09 11:28 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Oregonian]
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Look at the big brain on 4Salt . .. . Interesting info, thanks for the edumaction. And I am being sincere with that.
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#477767 - 01/05/09 11:57 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: FishRanger]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism


The term Semite refers broadly to speakers of a language group which includes both Arabs and Jews. However, the term antisemitism refers specifically to attitudes held towards Jews.
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#477919 - 01/06/09 02:38 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Wooly Bully]
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#477924 - 01/06/09 03:16 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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JLH,
That land was in jewish hands before there were Palestinians or even Islam. To say that the they were removed and it should be their land is a joke. Everyone has a "right" to it and probably the Jews more than most. They were removed by mass slaughter when they were over run by Rome and by Canaanites before that. Then taken over, slaughtered and kicked out by the kingdom that controlled the lands that are now Jordan, Syria and part of Iraq.
The palestinians just happen to be who was there after the end of WWII. They have no more clame than anyone else and to portray this group of people in the light you attempt is a joke. If your kids (if you found someone willing to reproduce with you) were getting blown up on school buses and rockets landing in you back yard every day you would likely have a different view. Of course you are here protested by the military you hate so much......too bad.
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#477934 - 01/06/09 03:48 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: docspud]
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Originally Posted By: docspud
The palestinians just happen to be who was there after the end of WWII. They have no more clame than anyone else ...
So, you're a big supporter of psuedo-eminent domain, I see; land owner be damned.

Speaking of school kids being blown up...
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#477946 - 01/06/09 04:35 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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for the reading impaired:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE


It's just Hatfields and McCoys people. Nothing to see here, move along or you'll be hit by crossfire.
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#477948 - 01/06/09 04:48 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Mikespike]
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Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Nothing to see here, move along ...
I'd be glad to if it weren't for all the taxpayer dollars being wasted over there.
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#477956 - 01/06/09 05:10 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: goharley]
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Originally Posted By: goharley
Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Nothing to see here, move along ...
I'd be glad to if it weren't for all the taxpayer dollars being wasted over there.


I thought all taxpayer dollars were wasted! wink grin doh mad
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#477961 - 01/06/09 05:34 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Mikespike]
Irie Offline
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I really, really like it when religious types decide to rub each other out. Makes me wish I was an arms dealer more than I already do.

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#477966 - 01/06/09 06:08 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Irie]
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Mikespike--

Touché.
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#477978 - 01/06/09 06:44 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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Enough Diolgue....Time for Israel to Kill Hamas, and let God sort it out............

Video bombing

Mf


Edited by Magicfly (01/06/09 06:55 PM)
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#477979 - 01/06/09 06:47 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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Hold it out of the water for multiple glory shots, that'll spice it up a bit... thumbs

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#477986 - 01/06/09 07:16 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: goharley]
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Originally Posted By: goharley
Originally Posted By: Krijack
...you should count how many people were killed and then kill only the same amount; and that if you use a bigger gun or kill more, you are the agressor and immoral one.
That's not what I said, but if we continue to play with your police analogy, can that policeman enter an apartment building and kill every occupant inside because someone from one apartment shot at him? I hope you agree, no.

Israel has missles shot at them so they react in kind by firing missles back. I'm okay with that. But four Israelis die, so they in turn kill 400 Palestinians yet continue firing missles into Gaza; I'm questioning why some feel that's okay.


You mean it's not okay?... like I said, Palestinians bring knives into a gunfight. When they have no more knives, no more gunfights. Oh wait they'll still have rocks and innocents willing to throw them.


Edited by Vidiotic (01/06/09 07:19 PM)

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#477995 - 01/06/09 08:06 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Israel just bombed near two U.N. schools in Gaza that were filled with civilians.

Both sides are out to terrorize the other.

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#477997 - 01/06/09 08:07 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: Vidiotic]
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The way I read it,

Started with Hagar, Abraham and Ishmael. Abe knocked up Hagar to begin the clan that God promised Abe, because Sarah was barren. Then he got ole Sarah expecting (the "first" son of Abe better known as Isaac), so he had no need for little Ishmael any longer. Ishmael was the first Arab (meaning "mixed blood") and he and his mother Hagar were sent out of Abe's tent at the orders of Sarah. Sarah didn't like Hagar nor the little bastard Ishmael so they were sent off to the desert where Hagar eventually (through a timely blessing from "God") found a spring to live and raise Ishmael rather than return to her home land of Egypt. Moral of the story: this has literally been going on for some 4 thousand years now and one or even two 4-year terms by any American president is not going to end the strife between those two people. It will only end when they educate their children to live side by side with tolerance, or the more likely scenario, when one of them wipes the other of the map. Either way, completely out of my control. And on a further note, if someone were to send rockets into my back yard, I'd answer with ICBMs if I had them available to me.

Christians, Jews AND Arabs worship the same god, and all study the same Old Testament. The christians have a messiah, the Arabs have a prophet and the Jews are still waiting. Arabs also believe that in end times, all three of these religions will be united, under the same God and the turmoil will end forever. I wouldn't expect GW or anyone in his administration to follow any of that, though they are "Christian".

Glad I was born here.
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#478005 - 01/06/09 08:38 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: fishpolelease]
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if someone was stealing my land and trying to stop my freedom of movement I'd be lobbing whatever I had at them, too. Missles, rocks, dogshit, chum carcasses, whatever.

The Jews have been playing the victim card for years. Cut off funding, level the playing field, and may the least-religious fanatic win.
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#478010 - 01/06/09 09:14 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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#478013 - 01/06/09 09:25 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
Magicfly Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Here's an idea for all those that think Israel should pack it up and move. As a show of support to the Palestinian People, voluntarily give YOUR land back to the Native Americans that our ancestors STOLD from them.



doh!!!

Mf
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#478021 - 01/06/09 10:05 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: ]
goharley Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Here's an idea for all those that think Israel should pack it up and move. As a show of support to the Palestinian People, voluntarily give YOUR land back to the Native Americans that our ancestors STOLD from them.
Doesn't work. What's more analogous is to let the British decide that you have to give up your property to the Native Americans. Then have Canada arm them to the teeth so that everytime you flip one off they kill 20 of your family members.
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#478023 - 01/06/09 10:11 PM Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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civilians and wait for it....rockets.. civilians do NOT cause secondary explosions.
civilians used as shields. who uses civilians as shields? the word coward comes to mind. If the Palestinians want to waste their civilian population as shields, there won't be any left to become soldiers. as I said, you don't mess with the Zohan!

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