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#492520 - 03/03/09 03:38 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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I'm not a 'party first, country second' kind of guy.

I didn't figure you'd understand.
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#492523 - 03/03/09 03:41 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
I'm not a 'party first, country second' kind of guy.

I didn't figure you'd understand.
right.....

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#492525 - 03/03/09 03:41 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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how exactly am i a party first country second dude?

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#492532 - 03/03/09 03:54 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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You give me a headache Dewmie
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#492537 - 03/03/09 04:12 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: NOFISH]
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Originally Posted By: NOFISH
You give me a headache Dewmie


right on

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#492543 - 03/03/09 04:26 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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Originally Posted By: dewbie
how exactly am i a party first country second dude?


All I can tell you is I'm a work first, party after kinda guy. I even fish once in a while wink
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#492551 - 03/03/09 04:51 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: Mikespike]
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Can we democratically vote away Dewbie's right to a refresh button?
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#492553 - 03/03/09 04:55 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: stlhead]
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oh no, someone has a different opinion....we better silence him!

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#492556 - 03/03/09 05:01 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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You have an opinion? Where?
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#492559 - 03/03/09 05:07 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
You have an opinion? Where?


as DANS so eloquently stated before...."thats weak sauce" is that the best you got? what is it with today? pick on dewbie day? obama is a piece of crap...theres an opinion for you. grin

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#492562 - 03/03/09 05:17 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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dewbie,

Obama may not be able to work miracles on our economic crisis, and if so, it's likely that no one else could either. But I feel better every day knowing the GW isn't the US president any more.

You're welcome to your opinion, but can you answer: who would be a better president, and what would he or she do that would be more effective than what Obama's done?

Sg

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#492563 - 03/03/09 05:20 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: Salmo g.]
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Ron Paul would be a better president because he is for small government. Bush failed because he was pushing big government....Obama will fail even worse because he is pushing even bigger government. what i mean by this, is the government needs to keep their damn hands out of everything and let bad businesses fail, good businesses prosper.

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#492567 - 03/03/09 05:26 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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Originally Posted By: dewbie
what i mean by this, is the government needs to keep their damn hands out of everything and let bad businesses fail, good businesses prosper.


Also, buy low, sell high. That doesn't mean sell stoned. Sorry Dewb, I lack impulse control sometimes on internet fishing boards wink rofl
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#492572 - 03/03/09 05:31 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: Mikespike]
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Originally Posted By: Mikespike
Originally Posted By: dewbie
what i mean by this, is the government needs to keep their damn hands out of everything and let bad businesses fail, good businesses prosper.


Also, buy low, sell high. That doesn't mean sell stoned. Sorry Dewb, I lack impulse control sometimes on internet fishing boards wink rofl


speaking of sell stoned.....i just got this sh!t called Train wreck....damn its good!


Edited by dewbie (03/03/09 05:35 PM)

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#492575 - 03/03/09 05:35 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid
Ron Paul favors abolishing the 17th ammendment.


What about direct election of Senators do you find disturbing ?


i feel the 17th amendment gives more power to the government...obviously i dont like more government control....

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#492588 - 03/03/09 05:48 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid

It takes power away from state government, and transfers that power to the electorate.


Unfortunately, we are only offered turds or pigs with lipstick to vote for, or in our case, the terminator. frown

PS the terminator is our gov. not a senator, but still a turd like our other choices


Edited by Mikespike (03/03/09 05:51 PM)
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#492589 - 03/03/09 05:49 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid



It takes power away from state government, and transfers that power to the electorate.



which means that the power goes federal rather then in the state, which is more government control. i would rather keep the power in the state.

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#492591 - 03/03/09 05:52 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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Dewb-

we the people are "the electorate" - that stuff is train wrecking your brain! grin
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#492596 - 03/03/09 05:56 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: Mikespike]
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keeping the power in the state, keeps the government small. but, when you branch out from there people who shouldnt have a say get one....to me that doesnt make sense.

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#492598 - 03/03/09 05:58 PM Re: It only took Obama 40 days to. [Re: dewbie]
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this is on ron paul's site

Repeal The 17th Amendment

Posted December 19th, 2007 by SeanW

ANOTHER reason to vote for Ron Paul. And, if you understand it, a good argument to provide your friends.

Originally all Senators were elected by each State's elected officials. United States Senators were accountable to the State Governments that elected them and sent them to Washington to represent them. But the 17th Amendment changed that. Now, as we know, Senators are elected by popular vote. They no longer must answer to their own state government. And they have FAR too much power because of it.

Dr Paul, along with a few others such as Zell Miller, Alan Keyes, Harry Brown, Lew Rockwell and Neil Boortz, have advocated the repeal of the 17th Amendment for a long time.

Zell Miller introduced a constitutional amendment, just after announcing his retirement, to repeal the 17th Amendment, saying, "it gives too much power to Washington's special interests and it's an attack on federalism."

Whether Ron Paul gets elected or not, it's THESE issues that THIS MOVEMENT was born for...

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